Possibly playoff affectng news

[LinvilleGorge]

17 minutes ago, strato said:

I don’t think TO really went over the top behaviorally until he had a lot of success. But it was a long time ago to remember. 
 

 

It didn't reach ridiculous levels until he left SF. 

The shirtless situps in the driveway kicked off the ridiculous era.

[kungfoodude]

5 minutes ago, UnluckyforSome said:

I think you've forgotten much of his antics. There is much that had already happened before he was doing sit-ups in his driveway. To be fair though, he did very much age out in regards to behavior.

A lot of his "antics" were generally nothingburgers inside of a locker room. It was the locker room stuff that got him passed around. All that outside football stuff was only meaningful to the media and by proxy the fans.

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Exactly. He should be smart enough not to be fuging around with internet edge lords but duping an NFL star into doing something like this on camera unknowingly is exactly the type of poo they do for clicks which is exactly why he should be smart enough not to fug around with them.

I have no idea who those fat kids he is with are. If they are streamers, he should have a team around him smart enough to intercept those kind of "opportunities" and shut them down.

[Mr. Scot]

31 minutes ago, strato said:

I don’t think TO really went over the top behaviorally until he had a lot of success. But it was a long time ago to remember. 

Might just not have been publicly known before that. Social media probably wasn't as big a deal back then either.

I know some of the crazy sh-t Charles Haley did was kept under wraps for quite a while.

[Mr. Scot]

30 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

If you listen to teammates going back to SF he was always a complete nut. Not always in a really bad way, just a general nut. 

I think the steadily increasing platform amplified his ability to broadcast what a complete nutter he was, therefore all the extra press followed. 

The only really bad poo that he truly did was creating some locker room rifts a couple of his latter stops. That's the kind of poo that will really make you wear out your welcome. Sounds kind of similar to all the stuff that is coming out about Chris Paul and his split with the Clippers in the NBA. Eventually you aren't a good enough player to deal with all your BS.

He never reached the level of Aaron Hernandez

[Mr. Scot]

20 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It didn't reach ridiculous levels until he left SF. 

The shirtless situps in the driveway kicked off the ridiculous era.

Was watching when that happened.

The assistant or whatever she was that talked about "a man of his statue" didn't exactly help things. 

[UnluckyforSome]

19 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

A lot of his "antics" were generally nothingburgers inside of a locker room. It was the locker room stuff that got him passed around. All that outside football stuff was only meaningful to the media and by proxy the fans.

For the most part yes. Joining the cheerleaders to cheer on a touchdown when he was on the Niners is harmless.

His repeated solo look-at-me celebration on the Dallas star rubbed a few the wrong way.

All in all, major talent, and I wouldn't be surprised at all to hear he still thinks he could play on Sundays, if some team would only give him a shot.

[Mr. Scot]

I will say that as bad as some coaches can be about wanting to fix headcase players, fans are worse.

A while back, somebody on here wanted us to go after Titus Young. 

[SmokinwithWilly]

10 minutes ago, UnluckyforSome said:

For the most part yes. Joining the cheerleaders to cheer on a touchdown when he was on the Niners is harmless.

His repeated solo look-at-me celebration on the Dallas star rubbed a few the wrong way.

All in all, major talent, and I wouldn't be surprised at all to hear he still thinks he could play on Sundays, if some team would only give him a shot.

Think he would beat out XL for a spot on Sunday?

[UnluckyforSome]

5 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Think he would beat out XL for a spot on Sunday?

Sign him up.

I am willing to bet he wouldn't finish a game with -2 yards.

Edited 3 hours ago by UnluckyforSome

[PootieNunu]

6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Fitz is criminally underrated because he wasn't a freak of an athlete. He's #2 on the all-time receiving yards list by a comfortably margin and #6 for TDs. He's another guy that I wouldn't put at #2 but the argument can be made. 

Id probably say Rice, Moss, TO, then a bunch of guys can be argued for top 5 for the other 2 slots

[GoobyPls]

Meh…

I knew this thread would turn into a Bryce/Tua comparison, when they couldn’t be further apart situations.

 

Dolphins catered there whole offense toward Tua, they brought in a coach that would run a Tua friendly offense, the went in got the best most explosive WR in the NFL and paired him the fastest WR in that years draft. Panthers have done the opposite, they went and got a Pete Carroll disciple who likes to run the ball under center, they drafted big slow WR who got little separation in college. Literally the polar opposite of Bryce’s scouting report coming out of Alabama.

 

Tua was a decent QB 2 years ago, but the concussions, lack of movement have caught up to him. He never had a great arm to begin with but now since he doesn’t want to get hit he’s taking the whole offense down with him.

[Lurk21]

3 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Compared to it now??? I mean, there is no question they are far better. Chase and Higgins are better than any current WR on our roster. TMac may be better than them at some point in his career but that point is not now. Coker is better than Iosivas, IMO. I will give that.

Understandable but also from another point of view...  Tee Higgins has 667 yards and Tet  n Jalen have 851 and 762 respectively. They both could crack 1k yards with a qb that averages 155 yards passing a game.  That sample serving shows you with a more attacking  Qb, they'd both be sitting at 1k right now. Also, we are 7 and 7 but I guarantee  you if Bryce was replaced(with Burrow) in all the losses we have,  we easily sitting around 10 to 11 wins... We aren't a perfect team but If I were an agent of a Qb, I'd definitely  like the way it's being built up.  Young wide outs on rookie deals allows you to redirect money to the Qb

Edited 1 hour ago by Lurk21

[kungfoodude]

18 minutes ago, Lurk21 said:

Understandable but also from another point of view...  Tee Higgins has 667 yards and Tet  n Jalen have 851 and 762 respectively. They both could crack 1k yards with a qb that averages 155 yards passing a game.  That sample serving shows you with a more attacking  Qb, they'd both be sitting at 1k right now. Also, we are 7 and 7 but I guarantee  you if Bryce was replaced(with Burrow) in all the losses we have,  we easily sitting around 10 to 11 wins... We aren't a perfect team but If I were an agent of a Qb, I'd definitely  like the way it's being built up.  Young wide outs on rookie deals allows you to redirect money to the Qb

Jalen Coker has 284 yards receiving. 762 is his career total.

[Lurk21]

20 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Jalen Coker has 284 yards receiving. 762 is his career total.

I stand corrected. I'd say it'd be around what Higgins has rn then.  (Roughly another 200 yards)  being that he was behind X mostly and Canales admitting late that he needs to be more involved 

Edited 30 minutes ago by Lurk21