fug the HATERS

[GoobyPls]

9 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

If the saints have good pass protection you must really like the Panthers pass protection given how much higher their pass block win rate is, how many fewer sacks they've given up, and how much more time our QBs have to throw.

(The Panthers are about league average and the Saints are 30th in pass block win rate)

This where you need to watch the film, they don’t give up sack one cause of the type of offense we run and two cause Bryce is slippery, Shough big flaw come out of Louisville was him holding the ball forever 

 

Your telling me this is good pass protection? Lol

 

 

 

[mav1234]

1 minute ago, GoobyPls said:

This where you need to watch the film, they don’t give up sack one cause of the type of offense we run and two cause Bryce is slippery, Shough big flaw come out of Louisville was him holding the ball forever 

 

Your telling me this is good pass protection? Lol

I watch every one of our games and quite a few Saints games. I look at performance in aggregate and not that one time that a player made a play or sucked. Pass block win rate is irrelevant to how slippery Bryce is. Our OL is much better than the Saints overall (but is still not amazing at pass protection). Shough basically has half a second less in the pocket on average than Bryce has... So if you think Bryce is having to bail fast, well...

[pantherclaw]

On 12/21/2025 at 4:12 PM, uncfan888 said:

Bryce young is the epitome of game manager. Which is cool if he was drafted in any other round but the first and after a massive trade up

What the fug. 

[TD alt]

7 hours ago, Shotgun said:

Going from the 32nd to 27th ranked QB is a huge achievement indeed.

FTW!

[Basbear]

7 hours ago, Shotgun said:

Going from the 32nd to 27th ranked QB is a huge achievement indeed.

[GoobyPls]

4 hours ago, mav1234 said:

I watch every one of our games and quite a few Saints games. I look at performance in aggregate and not that one time that a player made a play or sucked. Pass block win rate is irrelevant to how slippery Bryce is. Our OL is much better than the Saints overall (but is still not amazing at pass protection). Shough basically has half a second less in the pocket on average than Bryce has... So if you think Bryce is having to bail fast, well...

That video I posted is not a one time thing, Shough got no pressure on him with the panthers blitzing, meanwhile the saints got pressure on Bryce with just 4. Out pass defense is horrible meanwhile the saints have a top 5 pass defense. Orlvosky actually broke down this game, the saints pass protection gave Shough. I want too see who makes these stats your thing out cause the film tells the opposite 

 

https://x.com/danorlovsky7/status/2001406714961150448

[TLGPanthersFan]

10 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

I think it’s been inevitable for a while now. I just refused to see it until I saw it for myself yesterday. While he’s not the most imposing qb I have seen live and up close. He’s far from the worst I’ve seen in live action. Poor Andy man. He should have retired. There’s just something about Young that his teammates see in him that you don’t see on tv. He’s a stone cold competitor for sure. But I don’t know if that’s going to be enough in the end.

I look at a QB and think, “Can he get us to a Super Bowl and win it?” The answer is always no. 
Only 2 short QBs have ever won a Super Bowl in its 50+ years existence and those two QBs has elite arms. One has an elite defense as well. 
Only way this team is gonna get to a Super Bowl with BY is if have a team like the Jimmy G 49ers. Elite defense that can make up for an offense. Pretty much carry Bryce to a Super Bowl. 
 

[TLGPanthersFan]

8 hours ago, GoobyPls said:

Nope I’m just stating facts, Bryce has his flaws but the roster around him is even more flawed. Idc how great the QB is it’s hard to put numbers where your best weapon is a rookie. 

With a better QB this team would have 10 wins already. 

[TLGPanthersFan]

5 hours ago, GoobyPls said:

Except we are not a bottom 3 offense. 
 

Saints actually have good pass protection, Olave who is better than any WR Bryce has ever had, and a creative caller. And he also has a good defense that doesn’t put him in holes every game.

 

We are not moving on from Bryce this offseason so keep wishing 

27th in PF

25th in yards

May not be bottom 3 but it is still close to the bottom. 
 

2024:

23th in PF

29th in Yards

Still bottom of the league even after Bryce came back. 

I am pretty much resigned that if the Panthers want to win a SB with Bryce they are gonna have to build an elite defense, kinda like what the Broncos had in 2015 or even this year. Because I doubt the Panthers will ever be more than a 32-20th ranked offense with Bryce at the helm. 
Even with that a SB is gonna be hard to reach. I mean the last time a defense carried a bad offense to a SB was 2015. 

[GoobyPls]

27 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

With a better QB this team would have 10 wins already. 

With a better coach we would have 10 wins already

With better receivers we would have 10 wins already

With better pass protection we would have 10 wins already

With a better defense we would have 10 wins already