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Cherelus in a walking boot but don't expect to see Simmons

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Has any team tried putting him at middle linebacker? This is one of the more puzzling draft busts I can remember

he has top 1% measurables, played multiple positions in college and obviously had the production

is it the systems he has always been in? Jeremy Chinn looked like Sean Taylor in Phil Snow’s defense and then couldnt get on the field with Evero 

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1 hour ago, KillaCamNewton said:

Has any team tried putting him at middle linebacker? This is one of the more puzzling draft busts I can remember

he has top 1% measurables, played multiple positions in college and obviously had the production

is it the systems he has always been in? Jeremy Chinn looked like Sean Taylor in Phil Snow’s defense and then couldnt get on the field with Evero 

That's what he played in Arizona 

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1 hour ago, KillaCamNewton said:

Has any team tried putting him at middle linebacker? This is one of the more puzzling draft busts I can remember

he has top 1% measurables, played multiple positions in college and obviously had the production

is it the systems he has always been in? Jeremy Chinn looked like Sean Taylor in Phil Snow’s defense and then couldnt get on the field with Evero 

Yes, and he’s not physical enough to take on and shed offensive linemen. 
 

I think safety/nickel is his best spot, but don’t expect anything from him there. He was best as an overhang player at Clemson. Maybe he has some value as a reserve safety and priority special-teamer if the coaches feel better about him in his natural spot, but he’s probably just an end-of-year fill-in. 
 

Maybe he’s worth having in camp. There are certainly guys with less potential.

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3 minutes ago, theinstrumental said:

Yes, and he’s not physical enough to take on and shed offensive linemen. 
 

I think safety/nickel is his best spot, but don’t expect anything from him there. He was best as an overhang player at Clemson. Maybe he has some value as a reserve safety and priority special-teamer if the coaches feel better about him in his natural spot, but he’s probably just an end-of-year fill-in. 
 

Maybe he’s worth having in camp. There are certainly guys with less potential.

His potential will clearly never be realized but he could be, as you said, a priority special teamer. He's athletic enough to potentially excel at that.

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1 hour ago, KillaCamNewton said:

Has any team tried putting him at middle linebacker? This is one of the more puzzling draft busts I can remember

he has top 1% measurables, played multiple positions in college and obviously had the production

is it the systems he has always been in? Jeremy Chinn looked like Sean Taylor in Phil Snow’s defense and then couldnt get on the field with Evero 

Aaron Curry 2.0. Perfect example of why there's no such thing as a sure thing in the draft. Sometimes even the safest looking picks where you think worse case scenario this guy is gonna be a decent NFL player and help a team still end up busting sometimes.

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7 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

I get that he is a bust and will never live up to his billing. But he is a guy that had generational measurables and size. He had 100 tackle twice in Arizona.. are you telling me he isnt good enough to play ahead of nick Scott and ransom.. come on bro.

Yes. I am saying that again. Its obvious 

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His ability worked in college against much lesser athletes. In the NFL where that isn't the case, he's too small/weak to be a LB/in the box safety and terrible at coverage to be a coverage LB/cover safety/nickel.

It's a similar problem to Chinn, except Chinn can function decently as an in-the-box safety

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On 1/1/2026 at 5:38 PM, PleaseCutStewart said:

His ability worked in college against much lesser athletes. In the NFL where that isn't the case, he's too small/weak to be a LB/in the box safety and terrible at coverage to be a coverage LB/cover safety/nickel.

It's a similar problem to Chinn, except Chinn can function decently as an in-the-box safety

I would think just off athletic ability, he's bigger faster and stronger than Scott and undrafted guy and ransom a slower guy. Now could they be more instinctive yes.. but sheer talent and speed to get to spots I wouldn't think so 

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