Someone's not gonna be happy

[Waldo]

Commited to not winning is a hell of a flex. 

[mrcompletely11]

33 minutes ago, cranky said:

Who specifically. 

too early to tell but its going to be rather easy to replace his production if we wanted to

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, cranky said:

It's a serious question regardless of electro's nonsense post. The limit is they have to be available net season. So they need to be a free agent or someone from the draft. Or, if there is a BU QB the Panther's could legitimately trade for. SO it needs to be realistic.

I am phrasing the question the way that I did because there are likely to be several options available that aren't projected to be free agents. I will give a single example(there are several) like Mac Jones. 

As for the draft, that's also going to be a little bit of a muddy discussion if you only limit it to what is "currently" available. Remember, we still haven't gone through the full cycle of who is declaring and who isn't.

I am asking for clarifications so I don't get a bunch of complaining for making suggestions about guys that may or may not actually end up being available.

[mrcompletely11]

6 minutes ago, cranky said:

It's a serious question regardless of electro's nonsense post. The limit is they have to be available net season. So they need to be a free agent or someone from the draft. Or, if there is a BU QB the Panther's could legitimately trade for. SO it needs to be realistic.

his "nonsense" post highlighted your post as ridiculous 

Edited yesterday at 03:27 PM by mrcompletely11

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

too early to tell but its going to be rather easy to replace his production if we wanted to

Yeah, it would be insanely easy to replace his production. There are several backup QB's who could easily eclipse that. Hell, one did this past year in fewer games.

[electro's horse]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

his "nonsense" post highlighted your post as ridiculous 

“You’re the nonsense poster” is a big time take, actually. A BTT, if you will. 

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I am phrasing the question the way that I did because there are likely to be several options available that aren't projected to be free agents. I will give a single example(there are several) like Mac Jones. 

As for the draft, that's also going to be a little bit of a muddy discussion if you only limit it to what is "currently" available. Remember, we still haven't gone through the full cycle of who is declaring and who isn't.

I am asking for clarifications so I don't get a bunch of complaining for making suggestions about guys that may or may not actually end up being available.

the options are quite limitless if we open things up, free agency, trade, draft, again replacing his "production" will not be hard

[CRA]

25 minutes ago, cranky said:

It's a serious question regardless of electro's nonsense post. The limit is they have to be available net season. So they need to be a free agent or someone from the draft. Or, if there is a BU QB the Panther's could legitimately trade for. SO it needs to be realistic.

you don't know who will be realistic or available yet as 31 other teams will make changes. 

but you could look at the past 2 offseasons, and see how many dirt cheap QBs were added to rosters that are better than Bryce today (in backup roles).   We could find a cheap bridge QB that has a higher ceiling and increase the ceiling of our offense over Bryce.  Every year, these types are out there in the end because few teams need a bridge QB and they just slot in somewhere as backups

 

[mrcompletely11]

3 minutes ago, CRA said:

you don't know how will be realistic or available yet as 31 other teams will make changes. 

but you could look at the past 2 offseasons, and see how many dirt cheap QBs were added to rosters that are better than Bryce today (in backup roles).   We could find a cheap bridge QB that has a higher ceiling and increase the ceiling of our offense over Bryce.  Every year, these types are out there in the end because few teams need a bridge QB and they just slot in somewhere as backups

 

daniel fuging jones had better stats than bryce in 3 less games, thats telling in in itself.  I am not a jones fan but just shows you can find production for the short term possible long term.  Bryce is not some one of one, he is a limited midget that some folks are still making excuses for.

Edited yesterday at 03:33 PM by mrcompletely11

[electro's horse]

2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

daniel fuging jones had better stats than bryce in 3 less games, thats telling in in itself.  I am not a jones fan but just shows you can find production for the short term possible long term.  Bryce is not some one of one, he is a limited midget that some folks are still making excuses for.

Jones absolutely cooks in this offense. A legit RPO?

[cranky]

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I am phrasing the question the way that I did because there are likely to be several options available that aren't projected to be free agents. I will give a single example(there are several) like Mac Jones. 

As for the draft, that's also going to be a little bit of a muddy discussion if you only limit it to what is "currently" available. Remember, we still haven't gone through the full cycle of who is declaring and who isn't.

I am asking for clarifications so I don't get a bunch of complaining for making suggestions about guys that may or may not actually end up being available.

So you think Mac Jones would be an improvement over Young and would bring him in next year? He's signed with SF through 2026 so it will cost something to get him here. Bryce is only 9M and it's gauranteed. 

I looked at his numbers and statistically, they are very similar to Youngs. I doubt he would be an improvement.

[mav1234]

A new contract right now would be a mistake. 

If Bryce is truly clutch, he'll show it in the playoffs.

Assuming a typical Bryce performance, I'd like to bring in Malik Willis, and see how camp goes and if Bryce struggles early again and we regress to the mean in one point games with awful offense, we give him a shot.

[Waldo]

17 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

A new contract right now would be a mistake. 

If Bryce is truly clutch, he'll show it in the playoffs.

Assuming a typical Bryce performance, I'd like to bring in Malik Willis, and see how camp goes and if Bryce struggles early again and we regress to the mean in one point games with awful offense, we give him a shot.

If he was clutch he wouldn't have finished 1-3 when it mattered most.

Edited yesterday at 03:56 PM by Waldo

[Jay Roosevelt]

52 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

There are better short term options available than Bryce, however. He is also a short term player.

I'm not sure who. The best available FA QB's:

Malik Willis - Will get big money from some team. Has looked good in Green Bay, but what are you getting if you take him out of that system?

Daniel Jones - Will almost certainly re-sign with the Colts. Coming off major injury.

Aaron Rodgers - Will either retire or re-sign with Steelers.

Russell Wilson - Could retire, but even if he doesn't he's not a clear upgrade over Bryce at this point.

Joe Flacco - Probably an upgrade, but would be a REALLY short-term option and that assumes he doesn't retire.

Mitchell Trubisky - I wouldn't hate bringing him in as a backup to push Bryce and he could be an upgrade over Dalton at this point but there are still a lot of questions.

Marcus Mariota - It's like if Bryce was older and Hawaiian.

Carson Wentz - See: Flacco, Joe and subtract a few years.

Sam Howell - I'm sure the UNC homers will hype him up, and I wouldn't be opposed to kicking the tires, but calling him a clear upgrade over Bryce is a stretch.

Zach Wilson - Has had multiple chances and has never looked like even a passable NFL QB. Pass.

Trey Lance - He's like the anti-Bryce. Has all the physical tools, but struggles with processing. Again, wouldn't mind him as a backup, but he's not a clear upgrade.
Gardner Minshew - It's like if Bryce was older, slower, white and had a 70s porn star mustache.

Skylar Thompson - Some potential here, and another guy I wouldn't be opposed to signing as a backup, but he's certainly not a clear upgrade.

Tyrod Taylor - At his age, likely not an upgrade or even a passable backup.
Kenny Pickett - lol

Jimmy Garoppolo - Was always overrated, now he's old too.

Case Keenum - Aging backup who was never that good in his younger days.

Josh Johnson - See: Keenum, Case.

Brandon Allen - Who?

Teddy Bridgewater - Will probably go back into retirement, but isn't an upgrade regardless.

Brett Rypien - Camp fodder at best.

 

51 minutes ago, Daddy_Uncle said:

Its year 3. I don’t think he will ever be consistent 

Maybe, maybe not. He wouldn't be the first QB who struggled with consistency early in his career and figured it out eventually.

Edited yesterday at 03:42 PM by Jay Roosevelt