Could Morgan be eyeing Trey Hendrickson

[Aussie Tank]

Get a passrusher where we only have to send 4 and get constant pressure anyway possible. Id rather sign an aging vet then send a plethora of picks and then sign one a couple years younger 

[csx]

7 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't think any pass rusher in the NFL, Garrett included was going to win us that game. It goes a lot deeper than that.

We nearly won it as is. They won on a late TD on a drive comprised of 100% passes. This is where you want pass rush. Were you referring to  a different game?

[kungfoodude]

4 minutes ago, csx said:

We nearly won it as is. They won on a late TD on a drive comprised of 100% passes. This is where you want pass rush. Were you referring to  a different game?

No. We rely primarily on pass rushing 3-4 players only and not on blitzing. It's an Evero issue. 

I am dead serious, the way we play defense probably would reduce Garrett to a 10 sack guy.

[Navy_football]

I think the last 2 seasons have been good examples of why you don't spend heavy in FA. Lewis and Hunt are good players, but they certainly haven't transformed the oline into the juggernaut we thought it'd be. They're ok. Wharton, Patrick Jones and Bobby Brown have been good in spots. But they didn't transform the Dline into some unmovable force. And all of the above have been bitten by the injury bug. Maybe a pass rush specialist for 3rd downs only. That seems to be the biggest problem with the defense - getting off the field on 3rd down, no matter the distance. Well that and the DC backing the secondary 10 yards past the first down marker. Bring in a starter level ILB and a pass rush specialist on defense. Bring in a speed WR on offense and quality oline depth, particularly interior oline. Draft BPA. Every position is open. Even QB. Hate to put all our eggs into the Hendrickson basket, forego all the other needs, and then he gets injured. I agree he could make the team better, but I'm the guy that would rather have two or three 7s, than one 10. 

[frankw]

4 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

I think the last 2 seasons have been good examples of why you don't spend heavy in FA. Lewis and Hunt are good players, but they certainly haven't transformed the oline into the juggernaut we thought it'd be. They're ok.

Therein lies the problem. Doing so has propelled us to the most expensive group in the league. And if we hadn't signed them in all likelihood the company line would be that our QB needs better protection.

But the argument could be made that without those signings we could have upgraded the defense much more. $153 million is no chump change.

[Navy_football]

3 minutes ago, frankw said:

Therein lies the problem. Doing so has propelled us to the most expensive group in the league. And if we hadn't signed them in all likelihood the company line would be that our QB needs better protection.

But the argument could be made that without those signings we could have upgraded the defense much more. $153 million is no chump change.

I hear you. But I 100% agree the oline needed to be improved from 2023. That was a complete disaster. They were gonna get someone killed out there. Heck, Dalton had a great game against Seattle that year, but there's no way he could have lasted a season behind that group. Seattle wasn't even particularly good and they had several HUGE hits on him the entire game. 

Now did Dan need to go out and spend the farm on OGs? That was probably a bit of an overreaction. Time to start replacing that whole group with draft picks. None of them are worth the money they're being paid. Not saying they aren't good players. Just that they're all overpaid. Sans whoever we march out there at Center. 

[frankw]

Just now, Navy_football said:

I hear you. But I 100% agree the oline needed to be improved from 2023. That was a complete disaster. They were gonna get someone killed out there. Heck, Dalton had a great game against Seattle that year, but there's no way he could have lasted a season behind that group. Seattle wasn't even particularly good and they had several HUGE hits on him the entire game. 

Now did Dan need to go out and spend the farm on OGs? That was probably a bit of an overreaction. Time to start replacing that whole group with draft picks. None of them are worth the money they're being paid. Not saying they aren't good players. Just that they're all overpaid. Sans whoever we march out there at Center. 

Certainly it needed to be addressed but can we be honest with one another and acknowledge that the urgency to address it by any means necessary was due to the org needing to save face for how poorly their #1 overall pick performed?

Only thing to do from here is learn from the experience and begin building a complete roster methodically. Heavy emphasis on the word complete.

[Navy_football]

15 minutes ago, frankw said:

Certainly it needed to be addressed but can we be honest with one another and acknowledge that the urgency to address it by any means necessary was due to the org needing to save face for how poorly their #1 overall pick performed?

Only thing to do from here is learn from the experience and begin building a complete roster methodically. Heavy emphasis on the word complete.

Agree. They absolutely need to build a more complete roster. But let's also acknowledge that they had the worst pass blocking interior oline in the NFL, and a receiving group highlighted by a 33 years old possession receiver. Those areas needed to be addressed for whoever you put back there.

But agree with their approach after the 2023 season. You should do everything in your power to give the #1 pick in the draft every opportunity to succeed (maybe not panic spend for OGs). Particularly if you mortgage the farm to go up and get him. Not sure if it was saving face as much as improving a very bad roster. Now do I think they should have gone up to get Bryce (or CJ or anyone) in 2023? Heck no. 

[frankw]

7 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Agree. They absolutely need to build a more complete roster. But let's also acknowledge that they had the worst pass blocking interior oline in the NFL, and a receiving group highlighted by a 33 years old possession receiver. Those areas needed to be addressed for whoever you put back there.

But agree with their approach after the 2023 season. You should do everything in your power to give the #1 pick in the draft every opportunity to succeed (maybe not panic spend for OGs). Particularly if you mortgage the farm to go up and get him. Not sure if it was saving face as much as improving a very bad roster. Now do I think they should have gone up to get Bryce (or CJ or anyone) in 2023? Heck no. 

I would say in terms of the interior as much as competent Guards were a need Center was the biggest hindrance and that had been an issue well before Bryce's rookie year. Go back and look at who Darnold had to work with in 2021 and 2022 on the interior. Paradis Tecklenburg Elflein Cam Erving Michael Jordan (the other one) and Bradley Bozeman. My goodness.

[Navy_football]

2 minutes ago, frankw said:

I would say in terms of the interior as much as competent Guards were a need Center was the biggest hindrance and that had been an issue well before Bryce's rookie year. Go back and look at who Darnold had to work with in 2021 and 2022 on the interior. Paradis Tecklenburg Elflein Cam Erving Michael Jordan (the other one) and Bradley Bozeman. My goodness.

Paradis and Bozeman. Forgot about those dudes. Trauma response? Probably. 

[Soul Rebel]

21 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

No matter what anyone says about refs, coaching or whatever, this was the season where we caught some vital breaks on the way to 8 wins.  I mean we could easily and I mean easily have been a 4/5 win team.

 

If dave doesnt figure out this offense stat then the reality could set in early.   thats why the icky news really blows, having to deal with that amongst our other issues just sucks

I see the logic in what you're saying, but I'd also say there were games with a bit more talent on the roster that some of the L's are actually W's. 

AZ - We don't get off to a crappy start and if this game is later in the season when Bryce is a bit more comfortable, I think we beat the Cards

NO - At least one of, if not both of these games would've gone our way

SF - Perfect opportunity to snag a win on the road that Purdy handed to us, but we couldn't do anything offensively

TB - Final game was winnable in Tampa 

All this to say, I think 8 wins is about where we were at in 2025 if you take the games we barely won and combined them against the games that we barely lost. 

Add 5-6 new pieces in FA and the draft. We went head to head and almost beat the Rams in a meaningful playoff game that gave a lot of the youth that experience to take into 2026 and beyond, and I do think 10-11 wins is achievable next year. 

Not guaranteed, but much the way folks thought we could get to 8 or 9 wins this year as the ceiling, I think 10-11 is the new ceiling for next year.

[DaveThePanther2008]

There are several other edge rushers available in Free Agency but I think the two players that could make a difference are Crosby and Hendrickson.  Crosby isn't a Free Agent and would required a pretty hefty price tag including several picks.  One site I saw said #19 a 2027 2nd round and some other picks.  IMO that's too expensive.  

Hendrickson is a Free Agent and maybe due to his age and recent injury he might not command the 25 million but that's only an opinion.  

So, our choices are Trade for Crosby (Not a good move) Hendrickson and pay big bucks, Draft an Edge (our 3 one in 2 drafts), or Find a 2nd tier Free Agent.  The way Morgan operates I believe we will address every position of need through free agency and go BPA at 19. 

[mrcompletely11]

1 hour ago, Soul Rebel said:

I see the logic in what you're saying, but I'd also say there were games with a bit more talent on the roster that some of the L's are actually W's. 

AZ - We don't get off to a crappy start and if this game is later in the season when Bryce is a bit more comfortable, I think we beat the Cards

NO - At least one of, if not both of these games would've gone our way

SF - Perfect opportunity to snag a win on the road that Purdy handed to us, but we couldn't do anything offensively

TB - Final game was winnable in Tampa 

All this to say, I think 8 wins is about where we were at in 2025 if you take the games we barely won and combined them against the games that we barely lost. 

Add 5-6 new pieces in FA and the draft. We went head to head and almost beat the Rams in a meaningful playoff game that gave a lot of the youth that experience to take into 2026 and beyond, and I do think 10-11 wins is achievable next year. 

Not guaranteed, but much the way folks thought we could get to 8 or 9 wins this year as the ceiling, I think 10-11 is the new ceiling for next year.

Ain't no way in hell we win 10 wins next year

[Jay Roosevelt]

2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Ain't no way in hell we win 10 wins next year

Not with that schedule, no.