Jenson's OTB: Panthers Source on Edwards, Clausen

[CatMan72]

It's funny because during the Bustin Loose show today, I heard Moose say he had sources within the Panthers organization who say that Clausen's inability to grasp the offensive scheme caused them to have to really limit the offense last year and they are definitely looking for someone else to be the starting QB.

[Ricky Spanish]

Screw Cam. He is not even on the team. I would like to point out that, although skeptical, I hope this is correct about Clausen. I am taking the approach that Clausen and Edwards were not Fox choices, that they went over his head due to his lame duck status, that he knew they weren't drafted for him, so he resented them. There was a time during the season when Fox told reporters, "JC will be the starting QB the rest of the year." He never says something like that when a player was struggling. He was told to play Clausen.

Clausen was not groomed or even protected. He was thrown to the lions. Now, maybe he is a dud, but anyone who pronounces him dead is a quitter. Like I said earlier, Elway's rookie year was nearly identical to Clausen's, except he didn't have to play under these conditions. 47% completion rate and a 54 QB rating in 10 games as a starter. He has 2 rings and a bust in the hall today. Denver wanted him out.

they also invested a poo ton into him to get him there. I know the colts originally drafted him and the broncos traded away a bunch of crap to get him, so they had too much invested for him to fail.

[SOJA]

We swap firsts and give them a fourth.

And yes, I'd take that deal.

I try to work it but yeah I'd take that at the end of the day

[SOJA]

It's funny because during the Bustin Loose show today, I heard Moose say he had sources within the Panthers organization who say that Clausen's inability to grasp the offensive scheme caused them to have to really limit the offense last year and they are definitely looking for someone else to be the starting QB.

jesus christ

[KBRed]

It's funny because during the Bustin Loose show today, I heard Moose say he had sources within the Panthers organization who say that Clausen's inability to grasp the offensive scheme caused them to have to really limit the offense last year and they are definitely looking for someone else to be the starting QB.

What does Moose know? ;)

[Mr. Scot]

It's funny because during the Bustin Loose show today, I heard Moose say he had sources within the Panthers organization who say that Clausen's inability to grasp the offensive scheme caused them to have to really limit the offense last year and they are definitely looking for someone else to be the starting QB.

What do you think the odds are that particular source goes by the initials "SS"?

[teeray]

People are misunderstanding the so-called asking price for Palmer. It isn't a swap and 4th rounder.

It is a 1st round pick and a third or fourth.

In other words, if you want Palmer and a swap this year it would take something along the lines of swapping picks this year, next years first, and this/next year's 3rd/4th.

To me this is too high a price.

[Jaxel]

I'm honestly more inclined to believe that Jimmy will be given another chance and that we will take someone like Dareus or PP.

[teeray]

Otherwise they would be essentially trading Palmer for a 4th round pick. you are dreaming if you think we get that price.

The Browns (owners) will let him retire to prove a point before they would do that deal

[SorthNarolina]

HA! Cam Newton also comes once in 10 years, We can draft Jimmys in any draft

Big athletic QBs are once a decade?

Peyton Mannings are once a decade.

[Mother Grabber]

We still have a long way to go to get to 150 replies...

[Mr. Scot]

People are misunderstanding the so-called asking price for Palmer. It isn't a swap and 4th rounder.

It is a 1st round pick and a third or fourth.

In other words, if you want Palmer and a swap this year it would take something along the lines of swapping picks this year, next years first, and this/next year's 3rd/4th.

To me this is too high a price.

Wrong. Jensen's source said they'd want a first round pick paired with a 3rd or 4th. Swapping picks in the first and giving them a 4th would fit that scenario if Brown were willing to trade.

It's also not absolutely necessary that the whole trade be completed on draft day if the CBA is not in place. They can make a "handshake" agreement that they'll trade Palmer when they can.

[Swarly]

Wrong. Jensen's source said they'd want a first round pick paired with a 3rd or 4th. Swapping picks in the first and giving them a 4th would fit that scenario if Brown were willing to trade.

It's also not absolutely necessary that the whole trade be completed on draft day if the CBA is not in place. They can make a "handshake" agreement that they'll trade Palmer when they can.

That just doesn't seem like it's enough for their franchise QB. They could probably get more to be honest. I hope it's true though(your trade scenario that is). I would make that trade without hesitation.

[teeray]

Wrong. Jensen's source said they'd want a first round pick paired with a 3rd or 4th. Swapping picks in the first and giving them a 4th would fit that scenario if Brown were willing to trade.

It's also not absolutely necessary that the whole trade be completed on draft day if the CBA is not in place. They can make a "handshake" agreement that they'll trade Palmer when they can.

That isn't what he said. He asked the guy in Cincy what it would take to get palmer and the guy in Cincy said at least a 1st round pick and a 3rd/4th.

Then somehow the hosts started talking about swapping picks and a 4th but that wasn't what the guy's source in Cincy said.

They may have misread what the guy said but it will take no less than a stand alone first round pick and an additional pick to get Palmer.