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Cracking Down on the forum...


Zod

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Awesome. So basically it's going to be Mr Scot, Jangler, and Grits left on the forum.

Maybe you should just go ahead and merge this website with one of the numerous CP threads on 4chan.

Just the opposite, I'd say.

In reality, there are maybe three or four people who'll actually be affected by this. The vast majority will continue as they did before.

Like i said previously, a small forum of maybe thirty to fifty guys or so might work as a playground for e-jerks (for a little while anyway) but a board this large needs mass appeal. That means reeling in the nimrods who ruin the fun for everyone else.

Again, it's meant to be fun for a wide audience, not just for a small group of a--holes at everyone else's expense.

To the naysayers, I'd say this. Someone who can't defend their ideas without getting personal likely doesn't have much to say that's worth listening to, anyway.

Bottom Line: you don't have a constitutional right to be an Internet bully. Sad to think some people's real lives would be so pathetic that they'd defend that right as if it actually existed.

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So I take it "wasteland" in this context means something other than empty? Because personal attacks kind of require multiple active parties.

If you're so sensitive that you would send a private message to a moderator about having your feelings hurt on the fuging internet, I'm not sure how you deal with the stress of having cashiers talk to you rudely in real life.

King, I am not one of the ones who have pm'd Zod about the complaints.l Luckily I have not been personally attacked (as far as I know).

I do not enjoy reading it and do not appreciate it being done to others. It is disappointing to see threads hijacked by childish asinine attacks. Disagreement and debate are about ideas. A post should defend a point of view, not attack or insult someone else for theirs..

If I go to a store where the cashiers are rude, even if not to me, I will not keep going back. Not because it is stressful, but because I do not enjoy that type of environment and it is not congruent with my standards. Same thing has happened here. Many very good posters have left completely or rarely post.

A wasteland is not nothing...it is something that has no value/quality.The quality of this board it not what it was a few years ago, which I find sad. Hoping it is temporary.

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Maybe this will make it a tad bit more peaceful and enjoyable to post on here. Would very much like to enjoy coming here to read and post as much as I used to.

I don't know why some people feel the need to immediately start nonsense such as name calling over a discussion on a football forum. Take it to the smack forum and keep it there if you must. It's sad to see so many forum regulars either stop coming here all together or rarely post anymore over stupid trivial crap like whats been going on here for the last 6 or so months. I'm here to talk about football in a civil manner and I hope the same goes for the majority of people that join the Huddle.

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I don't think asking for members not to personally insult other members in any way effects the discourse here but in a positive way.

People can still post any opinion or opposition to opinions that they want. They can even say certain opinions are like a hobo's diarreah, indecent in the public's view but inevitably comes spewing out occasionally.

You just can't attack the poster personally who may have posted said diarrhea opinion. You cannot call posters racists. You cannot call posters idiots. You cannot call posters Falcon Fans. None of these insults are acceptable.

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I don't think asking for members not to personally insult other members in any way effects the discourse here but in a positive way.

People can still post any opinion or opposition to opinions that they want. They can even say certain opinions are like a hobo's diarreah, indecent in the public's view but inevitably comes spewing out occasionally.

You just can't attack the poster personally who may have posted said diarrhea opinion. You cannot call posters racists. You cannot call posters idiots. You cannot call posters Falcon Fans. None of these insults are acceptable.

Falcon fan.

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A board that needs personal attacks to exist is already a wasteland.

This board used to have more quality. It has lost great posters due to the crap allowed. Headed for wasteland without some enforced standards.

Why is the traffic so heavy, in that case? I really haven't seen large amounts of vicious personal attacks on other posters here, although I don't spend a large amount of time here.

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do what i do at work when i wanna curse someone out use substitutes. Whenver you feel the urge to yell something such as "go fug yourself" instead say something like "go eat an apple and enjoy it you upstanding citizen" but say it in a really mean voice. Last week one of my managers pissed me off to the point where he was waiting for me to say something out of line and instead i yelled in a very threating tone " i like your shirt it's a good look for you" he just stood there stared at me and walked off because he had nothing to write me up about.

wtf?

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I don't think asking for members not to personally insult other members in any way effects the discourse here but in a positive way.

People can still post any opinion or opposition to opinions that they want. They can even say certain opinions are like a hobo's diarreah, indecent in the public's view but inevitably comes spewing out occasionally.

You just can't attack the poster personally who may have posted said diarrhea opinion. You cannot call posters racists. You cannot call posters idiots. You cannot call posters Falcon Fans. None of these insults are acceptable.

insulting won't be tolerated....but what about clear trolling trying to bait people over and over and over again? Still cool?

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