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Melvin White made Vincent Jackson his bitch

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I'm going to be called out for this and, admittedly, it may be nit-picking, but....

 

The DBs are very good at not allowing YAC, they are making the tackles, but they are not defending the passes. There were 3 sacks and most of the time the Panthers were collapsing the Tampa Bay pocket, but Glennon still completed 60% of his 50 passes. Consider the blatant drops and the total airmailed passes, he still completed 60% of his passes with no running game beyond the rookie James, one healthy WR in Jackson, an injured Mike Williams and another rookie WR.

 

Mitchell cannot be moved from free safety. Too many times was he literally the last line of defense and made a perfect form tackle. Not the all-too-familiar "hit 'em and hope they go down" instead of wrap and tackle.

 

I'm a little hesitant about singing the praises of this group of DBs after beating a winless team, rookie QB in his 4th career start, rookie RB in his 1st career start, one healthy veteran WR and a coach seemingly on life support just waiting for the front office to unplug him.

 

Let's watch the next 3 weeks against Atlanta, SF and New England and if we're able to smile afterwards and keep the same feelings about this group of DBs, then all is well. But I have a feeling there will be more question marks then exclamation points after the next three weeks.

 

that's more than fair...

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I'm going to be called out for this and, admittedly, it may be nit-picking, but....

 

The DBs are very good at not allowing YAC, they are making the tackles, but they are not defending the passes. There were 3 sacks and most of the time the Panthers were collapsing the Tampa Bay pocket, but Glennon still completed 60% of his 50 passes. Consider the blatant drops and the total airmailed passes, he still completed 60% of his passes with no running game beyond the rookie James, one healthy WR in Jackson, an injured Mike Williams and another rookie WR.

 

Mitchell cannot be moved from free safety. Too many times was he literally the last line of defense and made a perfect form tackle. Not the all-too-familiar "hit 'em and hope they go down" instead of wrap and tackle.

 

I'm a little hesitant about singing the praises of this group of DBs after beating a winless team, rookie QB in his 4th career start, rookie RB in his 1st career start, one healthy veteran WR and a coach seemingly on life support just waiting for the front office to unplug him.

 

Let's watch the next 3 weeks against Atlanta, SF and New England and if we're able to smile afterwards and keep the same feelings about this group of DBs, then all is well. But I have a feeling there will be more question marks then exclamation points after the next three weeks.

 

i see your point, but if we're complaining about allowing a 58% completion rate then we've got something pretty special going on. remember also that a huge chunk of glennon's yards came during 4th-quarter garbage time.

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I'm going to be called out for this and, admittedly, it may be nit-picking, but....

The DBs are very good at not allowing YAC, they are making the tackles, but they are not defending the passes. There were 3 sacks and most of the time the Panthers were collapsing the Tampa Bay pocket, but Glennon still completed 60% of his 50 passes. Consider the blatant drops and the total airmailed passes, he still completed 60% of his passes with no running game beyond the rookie James, one healthy WR in Jackson, an injured Mike Williams and another rookie WR.

Mitchell cannot be moved from free safety. Too many times was he literally the last line of defense and made a perfect form tackle. Not the all-too-familiar "hit 'em and hope they go down" instead of wrap and tackle.

I'm a little hesitant about singing the praises of this group of DBs after beating a winless team, rookie QB in his 4th career start, rookie RB in his 1st career start, one healthy veteran WR and a coach seemingly on life support just waiting for the front office to unplug him.

Let's watch the next 3 weeks against Atlanta, SF and New England and if we're able to smile afterwards and keep the same feelings about this group of DBs, then all is well. But I have a feeling there will be more question marks then exclamation points after the next three weeks.

It was just an example of what happens when the pass rush doesn't get there.....we get exposed. The pass rush won't be in their game every game for 16 weeks.

RR's secondary scheme is about allowing some passes and then attacking preventing YAC. It is also about sitting back and playing the ball often and not the WR. It is very effective when the pass rush is on

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I wonder what happens this offseason though.

 

Distinct possibility some guys may be let go from or decide to leave the Giants after this year's disaster of a season.

 

I'd certainly welcome them here.

 

 

it makes sense Gettleman could make a few changes he sees as improvements..  

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it makes sense Gettleman could make a few changes he sees as improvements..  

 

This year he stated he didn't wanna be the guy who came in and threw everyone out for his own guys.

 

But next offseason, after a year's worth of evaluation, i could see some changes.

 

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i see your point, but if we're complaining about allowing a 58% completion rate then we've got something pretty special going on. remember also that a huge chunk of glennon's yards came during 4th-quarter garbage time.

 

Well, he was 30/50, which is 60% as I mentioned, not 58. And if you throw in the out-and-out drops, we're talking about 65%- does that make it more relevant as a point of discussion? I think not.

 

A 60% completion rate is not being achieved by more than half the starting QBs in the league right now, so it's not an insignificant number. And, again, against a winless team, etc.

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This year he stated he didn't wanna be the guy who came in and threw everyone out for his own guys.

 

But next offseason, after a year's worth of evaluation, i could see some changes.

 

 

he also said the current crew was a good one, but its likely that's GM speak for the very reason you stated above..  we'll see.  Keep drafting studs and we'll be sitting pretty in a few years after these draft picks start developing into vets..

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I'm going to be called out for this and, admittedly, it may be nit-picking, but....

 

The DBs are very good at not allowing YAC, they are making the tackles, but they are not defending the passes. There were 3 sacks and most of the time the Panthers were collapsing the Tampa Bay pocket, but Glennon still completed 60% of his 50 passes. Consider the blatant drops and the total airmailed passes, he still completed 60% of his passes with no running game beyond the rookie James, one healthy WR in Jackson, an injured Mike Williams and another rookie WR.

 

Mitchell cannot be moved from free safety. Too many times was he literally the last line of defense and made a perfect form tackle. Not the all-too-familiar "hit 'em and hope they go down" instead of wrap and tackle.

 

I'm a little hesitant about singing the praises of this group of DBs after beating a winless team, rookie QB in his 4th career start, rookie RB in his 1st career start, one healthy veteran WR and a coach seemingly on life support just waiting for the front office to unplug him.

 

Let's watch the next 3 weeks against Atlanta, SF and New England and if we're able to smile afterwards and keep the same feelings about this group of DBs, then all is well. But I have a feeling there will be more question marks then exclamation points after the next three weeks.

i agree, we should stay mum about our defense, and offense for that matter.  since that's the case, we'll see you in 3 or 4 weeks.  ciao!

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