G-man's BPA sounds like THE BPA

[micnificent28]

this is a great class period. The talent is deep and as good or better at almost every position as it was last year.

[Ruff]

I think the 1st round RB is not coming back for quite a few years yet.

Oh, I agree. But I don't think it's for a lack of talent. There's plenty of talent this year, that's what I was referring to. In fat, I'd say this is probably the best RB class of the last, I don't know, 5 years?

[panthers55]

I think Gettleman is telling you that he will pick the best player on his board regardless of position or need. I am sure that if Manziel dropped to 27 we would jump on him like a hobo on a hotdog.  He would be a steal who you could keep or trade.

The issue is that Gettlemans board may not have, for example, any running back in the first round or anyone rated as a first rounder when we pick at 27.   It isn't concensus of the group but what the Panthers think  is the best player available.  i think we all agree that Star was BPA at 14 but Short wasn't at a position of need relative to other areas like offensive line which we picked in the third.. He was BPA and that is why we picked him. If it were me, I would grade them within their positions an also bunch them across positions in pods of equal worth so that the best tight end might be bunched with the 4th best offensive lineman or use some kind of number rating system so I could value whether the 2nd best TE was a better value than the 2nd best corner.  If they are equal or close then you can go either way and feel good. We might have the corner rated much higher than the others at his position or have the 2nd tight end rated not much better than the next 4 guys at that position.  So the corner becomes BPA available given the tight end  can't be that special if the next 4 guys are just as good.

 

Gettleman will tell you that every pick is BPA because on his board it will be.  He said that free agency is where you fill needs and the draft is to replenish the team with the best players you can find not the best you can find at a position of need,  He did that last year and will do it again.  Who thought we needed Klein for example. He surely wasn't a position of need nor was Barner.

[PantherFanOne]

Technically, it is drafting for need. different teams have different needs, so players are rated differently team by team. We Panthers don't rate the need for QB. Some teams do. Wonder where the QB position plays into each teams board?

Being able to narrow your choices is a good thing. The BPA to us, as a team, to improve, is who we take. Unless...

 

Exactly. That sums it up very nicely.

[MV%doe]

If a MLB or QB has a first round grade and they are just sitting in the 5th-7th round, pick'em. cam/luke are not above getting injured.

 

 

besides its a investment, if your ranking is correct then you have a great asset. after pre-season play, coach/gm/scouts talking, some team could offer a 2nd rounder*or more for a two years ago late 5th/6th/7th rounder. nice return on a BPA pick. 

[Herbert The Love Bug]

whatever happens are going to come away with some great players and depth. I trust in Gettleman. I wish people would start to realize when someone says BPA they usually mean BPA at position of need.

[Growl]

your board is assembled with need in mind in most draft rooms.

you never take need out of the equation. i don't understand why so many people have difficulty with this every year.

[top dawg]

your board is assembled with need in mind in most draft rooms.

you never take need out of the equation. i don't understand why so many people have difficulty with this every year.

 

I agree for the most part...but you can't totally discount opportunism.  If that gem that you can't pass up falls into your lap, then all bets are off.   Luckily for us, we had the perfect storm in the first round last year.

[carolina-chuck]

Kouandjio, welcome to Charlotte.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

saying you take the top player on your board doesn't really say much

 

the real question then would be exactly how do you set up your board, how much weight goes into outright talent, positional value, need, potential/risk, character issues, measurables, ect

[ladypanther]

I think Gettleman is telling you that he will pick the best player on his board regardless of position or need. I am sure that if Manziel dropped to 27 we would jump on him like a hobo on a hotdog.  He would be a steal who you could keep or trade.

The issue is that Gettlemans board may not have, for example, any running back in the first round or anyone rated as a first rounder when we pick at 27.   It isn't concensus of the group but what the Panthers think  is the best player available.  i think we all agree that Star was BPA at 14 but Short wasn't at a position of need relative to other areas like offensive line which we picked in the third.. He was BPA and that is why we picked him. If it were me, I would grade them within their positions an also bunch them across positions in pods of equal worth so that the best tight end might be bunched with the 4th best offensive lineman or use some kind of number rating system so I could value whether the 2nd best TE was a better value than the 2nd best corner.  If they are equal or close then you can go either way and feel good. We might have the corner rated much higher than the others at his position or have the 2nd tight end rated not much better than the next 4 guys at that position.  So the corner becomes BPA available given the tight end  can't be that special if the next 4 guys are just as good.

 

Gettleman will tell you that every pick is BPA because on his board it will be.  He said that free agency is where you fill needs and the draft is to replenish the team with the best players you can find not the best you can find at a position of need,  He did that last year and will do it again.  Who thought we needed Klein for example. He surely wasn't a position of need nor was Barner.

 

So...if Manziel was the best player at our pic.....maybe a good time to trade down?

[Kevin Greene]

A smart GM of a well run team will always say we're going BPA as no other team will know where that team is going as no one can predict how the picks will fall.

Only a Jerry Jones is ignorant and arrogant enough to announce what their intentions might be pre-draft.

 

[heel31ok]

A spin-off from another thread, perhaps, but my thinking is that you aren't gonna pin G-man into a corner by what you believe is the logical choice.  He is going to get the best player available, whether based on actual play, potential or whatever criteria that he uses.

 

The story today by Bryan Strickland of Panthers.com can provide many seeds of conversation. What does Gettleman say about trying to fit the Panthers way into what you may believe?

 

 

But, but, he stopped at K.K.  So what about Kugzilla? From looking at what he did in the remaining rounds, I just have to take G-man for his word. There is little argument that Klein and Barner were the best available in rounds 5 and 6, so Kugbila must have been rated very highly on G-man's big board as well.

 

I just wish we would have had that third pick last year because Keenan Allen would have probably been a Panther right now. But, it is what it is, and I am looking forward to seeing what G-man does with his third round pick this year.

dt was a big need so lucky we get two who were BPA.  I think they were going to get short no matter what happened if he was there. they liked him from the start. He was backup plan all along.

[DEdwards09]

I do not think people are understanding the clear definition of best player available. People are making it seem like every team's draft board will be set up entirely the same. You will not see 32 teams setting up the same identical draft board like all they do is watch the NFL Network. It has been stated before and I will echo the sentiments that some of the top players will be eliminated from our draft board because they are not needed. It would be stupid for us to even consider taking a QB, RB, or DT in early rounds or even period given what is currently on the roster. The BPA for Panthers may not be the BPA for Browns. Now if there is a guy that someone feels should have already been taken before our pick based on "their" board. They would be looking to trade up and we could very well trade down and still get our guy because our guy is not high on other team's boards because they do not need them.