Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Moses vs Cyrus vs Bitonio


Mr. Scot

Recommended Posts

I like all of them. Bitonio is versatile. Can play inside and could try to play Tackle. Unfortunately his size is not what you want in a left tackle, or right tackle for that matter. He's till a formidable linemen.

 

Cyrus is just a mountain of a man, long arms, power. According to doctors his knee is fine but it won't be after several years. It will wear down so his life shelf is going to be very minimal. You're looking at 5-6 years before he's starting to see some serious damage.

 

Moses, is rough, but he's a specimen. He's probably the project of the three. Long arms as well, but lacks the feet.

 

 

I'd say to forgo all of them and take Ja'wuan James instead. The guy has everything, he's played Right Tackle most of his career but he has Left Tackle written all over him. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Bitonio is the most tenacious, Cyrus has the most natural talent, Moses has the lowest bust probability. I love Moses in the 2nd but not at 28. But out of the three I would probably be most excited about Cyrus at 28 if he is ok healthwise. He is the youngest and has raw power and quick feet. But he is a project.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I think the question I have about Cyrus is this.   The doctor cleared him that his knee was fine.   Is the knee fine and that the problem has gone away or was it injured and now it is better.     IF it is the latter,  I would pass on Cyrus.

 

From what I know Moses seems to be the one I would take.  Some said slow feet but the only issue I have hear about him is he bends at the waist and gets off balance.   That is coachable.   He is a good pass blocker and that is something I would want as my LT.

 

Honestly I haven't heard much about Bitonio other than he has a mean streak.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Have the Panthers even worked out Cyrus? I read where Rivera personally visited Bitonio but I personally do not see him as a 1st round pick. 

 

Moses is just OK. I am leaning towards James in the 2nd as being a value pick. Then again we cannot count on James being there so who knows. 

 

With our glaring hole at OL and lack of cap money I do not see how we can ignore the position .

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Have a look for yourself at these full game cut ups. I personally like Cyrus the best. Try and watch at least 3 games worth of each player to get a sold opinion....(you can see every snap they played in a game in matter of minutes in these videos)

http://draftbreakdown.com/players/cyrus-kouandjio

http://draftbreakdown.com/players/joel-bitonio

http://draftbreakdown.com/players/morgan-moses/

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The only one I have a strong opinion on is Cyrus -- and it's not a positive one. This is an arthritic knee; do any of you have relatives with arthritis? Did it ever just magically go away or did it get worse with time? My guess is the latter. This knee is not going to get any healthier. He may get cleared for a season, but that's all the doctors can do. I just don't like how the future's looking from a medical standpoint.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • In my opinion Fitterer was probably right about not paying McCaffrey. Now not wanting to "pay RBs" in my opinion isn't something you want to set in stone, to me it all comes down to the individual.
    • Maybe I'm just not understanding, but everywhere that I have read says that signing bonuses go against the cap prorated by as much as five years. The following example uses Andrew Luck's rookie contract as an example. "Take Andrew Luck, the first overall pick in the 2012 NFL draft. Luck signed a four-year contract with the Colts worth $22.1 million and included a $14.5 million signing bonus. Rather than a $14.5 million cap hit in 2012, the Colts spread out his signing bonus over the life of his contract. The hit against the cap would be $3.625 million per year over four years instead of a direct cap hit of $14.5 million directly in 2012. This gave the Colts more leverage and cap flexibility in signing other players." https://www.the33rdteam.com/nfl-signing-bonuses-explained/ I don't know why some of you think that signing bonuses aren't counted against the cap over the length of the contract, but whatever.   "The bonus with a signing is usually the most garish aspect of a rookie contract. Bonus is the immediate cash players receive when they ink a deal. It factors into the cap, but only for the whole contract duration, in terms of salary cap calculations. In the case of Bryce Young’s $24.6 million signing bonus, that’s prorated to approximately $6.15 million per season over a four-year deal. This format allows teams to handle the cap and provides rookies with some short-term fiscal stability, which is important given the high injury risk in this league." https://collegefootballnetwork.com/how-rookie-contracts-work-in-the-nfl/ I understand how signing bonuses can be a useful tool in order to manage the cap, and as one of the article suggests, signing bonuses may become important if you have a tight cap, but the bill is always going to come due. I'm not necessarily referring to you Tuka, but it seems to me that others simply don't want to understand that fact which is why they're reacting to what I'm saying negatively. How odd. In any event, I have a better general understanding of why signing bonuses are used now, and it's generally to fit salaries under the cap. Surely players, whether they be rookies or not, love a signing bonus because they get a good portion of their money up front. This in turn gives them more security and probably amounts to tax benefits as well. I also understand why teams would not want to use signing bonuses, particularly for players or draftees who have a higher probability of being gone before a contract even ends.
    • Get any shot you can at humane society, so much cheaper
×
×
  • Create New...