Johnny Manziel....

[Jeremy Igo]

Watched the Cleveland game from Sunday.

Yes, Manziel looked bad. But....

His team let him down in the first quarter. Manziel actually looked decent, made some nice throws that were dropped on key third downs.

By the second quarter it was 17-0. I don't care who the rookie QB is, if he is down 17-0 it wont be pretty. The defenses will pin their ears back and take more chances.

In short, he had a very bad game, but it was exacerbated by a bad Browns first quarter all around.

If the Panthers can't score TDs early, this will be a close game.

[VerticalThreat]

You hear that, Shula? TOUCH. DOWNS. 

[Captroop]

I hope we see our D-Lineman doing the money sign all afternoon.

[CRA]

Yep...Johnny played bad but he was pretty much set up to fail by his team too.

We let freaking sucks ass Martin run on us....so Clev should fair better at providing Johnny with some form of a run game to play off of.

Also we tend to get blasted by 3-4 defenses and have been living the good life vs piss poor 4-3 defenses of late.

[teeray]

We better take him seriously or else we are going to look stupid

[CarolinaCoolin]

Their offense needs their running game to get going to open up their passes and zone reads. In the bengals game their backs didn't even get 50 yards combined.

If we can stop the run we will win but we have been beyond shaky in run defense this year so I think the game will be close.

[dave-o]

We sure as hell dont want to be his first NFL win...  That sh!t cant be undone !!

[Darth Biscuit]

The Panthers have a habit of making bad/backup/rookie QB's look good.  

 

Continuing to kick FGs also won't get it done.

[PantherFanOne]

Watched the Cleveland game from Sunday.

Yes, Manziel looked bad. But....

His team let him down in the first quarter. Manziel actually looked decent, made some nice throws that were dropped on key third downs.

By the second quarter it was 17-0. I don't care who the rookie QB is, if he is down 17-0 it wont be pretty. The defenses will pin their ears back and take more chances.

In short, he had a very bad game, but it was exacerbated by a bad Browns first quarter all around.

If the Panthers can't score TDs early, this will be a close game.

 

 

It seems we always play better when we start quickly. Plus, getting Manziel and the Browns offense down early, will  give us a chance to pressure him and gamble more on defense.

[mc52beast]

Panthers have a history of making rookies and backups look like HOFers... if you're taking the Browns lightly then you haven't been paying attn.

[CRA]

Panthers have a history of making rookies and backups look like HOFers... if you're taking the Browns lightly then you haven't been paying attn.

facing a 3-4 after catching several bad 4-3 defenses is by far my biggest worry

[davos]

facing a 3-4 after catching several bad 4-3 defenses is by far my biggest worry

 

At least this 3-4 has one of the worst run defenses in the league.  If Stewart can go ham, we just need to stay ahead of them and control the clock.  Just can't get burnt by Gordon or let the shrimp-douche make a big run.  

[Chaos]

Wait, you mean you can't rely on FG's to win games??

[Hammerin'Cameron34]

Manziel sucks an isn't an nfl QB