I keep reading that the Panthers are expected to have 14mil in cap room this off season.

[Future of the Funchise]

Greg Hardy ate up 13mil this season with the franchise tag. Is all this money coming from him being off the books or am I just confused?

[csx]

No. That was just a 1 year deal with no affect on 2015's cap number.

[panthers55]

It has nothing to do with Hardy who isn't signed for 2015. It is combination of who we have signed and their salaries as well as any dead cap money we are carrying for Godfrey and Smith for example. Cam right now will have a cap hit of 14 million in 2015 which could be reduced by signing him long term. Plus we likely try and extend or restructure guys like Olsen or Johnson. If wee oiled sign Hardy it would likely be a cap friendly contract in 2015 and 2016 no matter what we paid him in total

[JARROD]

All I know, is if the website linked is right,.. we may have seen the last of CJ.  His cap figure is 20 m, pre June cut saves 6 Million but 14 Mil in dead money.

 

But-- click the Post June 1 cuts,.. CJ saves 10 million, still has 10 million dead money,.... very possible hes a June 1st cut unless we restructure him.

 

http://overthecap.com/salary-cap/carolina-panthers 

 

Stewart and Deangelo both save 2 million if either was a June 1st cut,.. but Stewart would cost us 5.3 Million if but before, DWill 250k.  Deangelo might be staying. Save 2 million and have 4 million in dead money if a June 1 cut.  Stewart post June 1 says 6 million dead money.

 

I doubt either gets cut looking at that.  Who knows, 2 million is 2 million.

 

Another 3.4 million saved with almost dead money for cutting DeCoud and Cotchery.

 

 

So cutting CJ, Decoud, Cotchery, all save 13.5 million.  Cut DWill Stewart or Tolbert and save 2-2.5 million but the first 2 have tons of dead money and would have to be June 1st to save.

 

So i guess its goodbye CJ?  Decoud and Cotchery-- there is no way they are back. Thomas Davis and Ryan Kalil hopefully can restructure, Stewart restructure, Tolbert can save 2.4 million too so I wonder if hes back?

 

So we can get into the mid 20 Million in cap if we want to,...but then who would we replace CJ with? The rest of the cuts i mentioned are expendable.

[MHS831]

The way I understand it-and most of what I read here is consistent with what I am reading---the following is "predicted" to occur, based on what some writers think Gettlemen will do, so take it for what it is worth:

 

1. Cut DW, Silatolu, DeCoud, and Tolbert.  It would save about $7m+.

2. Restructure CJ for an additional 3 years that is more in line with his actual worth.  Savings:  $6m.  I don't think he gets cut this year.  I am not sure what his incentive is either, but I read it.

3. Restructure TD.  He is slated to make $10m this season and is on the books for 3 more years at $1m with a $1m bonus each year.  Since he seems to have a few years left in him, that can be divided up and guaranteed over the next 4 seasons--ending his career here at age 35.  It would save $5m or so this year.

 

That is $18m in addition to the $14 you are reading about. 

 

However, he needs $$ to sign the rookies--expect us to have as many as 10 draft picks. 

 

So, it is safe to assume we could have up to $25m in free agency.

[B.BERSIN]

fug Hurney.

[SurvivalSloth]

I really don't like the fact that I'm hearing Tolbert's name in the probable cuts. 

[bLACKpANTHER]

I really don't like the fact that I'm hearing Tolbert's name in the probable cuts.

Right, when Remmers and turner and Norwell got it together and started playing well - magically Tolbert returned from injury. Coincidence? I think not

Not to take anything away from those guys, but Tolbert is key to the run game and pass protection

[csx]

Right, when Remmers and turner and Norwell got it together and started playing well - magically Tolbert returned from injury. Coincidence? I think not

Not to take anything away from those guys, but Tolbert is key to the run game and pass protection

You dont honestly think that do you? Tolbert made the OL look good by himself? He's not the best pure FB you know.

[Newtcase]

Ah man this is awesome!!  I can't wait for the day when we're able to trade quality players, from an embarrassment of depth, for extra draft picks and never see any drop off.  IT"S COMING!!!!

[rhyslloyd]

The way I understand it-and most of what I read here is consistent with what I am reading---the following is "predicted" to occur, based on what some writers think Gettlemen will do, so take it for what it is worth:

1. Cut DW, Silatolu, DeCoud, and Tolbert. It would save about $7m+.

2. Restructure CJ for an additional 3 years that is more in line with his actual worth. Savings: $6m. I don't think he gets cut this year. I am not sure what his incentive is either, but I read it.

3. Restructure TD. He is slated to make $10m this season and is on the books for 3 more years at $1m with a $1m bonus each year. Since he seems to have a few years left in him, that can be divided up and guaranteed over the next 4 seasons--ending his career here at age 35. It would save $5m or so this year.

That is $18m in addition to the $14 you are reading about.

However, he needs $$ to sign the rookies--expect us to have as many as 10 draft picks.

So, it is safe to assume we could have up to $25m in free agency.

I would cream myself. To actually be able to pursue legitimate players in FA would be amazing.

[Panic]

 

 

Right, when Remmers and turner and Norwell got it together and started playing well - magically Tolbert returned from injury. Coincidence? I think not

Not to take anything away from those guys, but Tolbert is key to the run game and pass protection 

This was not coincidence. Tolbert came off the new IR which makes you ineligible for 8 weeks. By the time he came back our o line looked completely different. This was due to our front office and coaching staff

[MHS831]

I would cream myself. To actually be able to pursue legitimate players in FA would be amazing.

 

That is why I wear Stayfree maxi brief shields. You never know when she's gonna blow.

 

When Gettlemen said that he was gearing toward 2016, when 22 contracts expire and he has to have Cam and Luke on the payroll, I imagine a lot of this money will go toward securing our own players.  Norman, for example, could use a 3-year extension and he is going to demand decent $$.

[JARROD]

I have nothing for or against Tolbert.  He's had some underrated performances and he showed up in the 2013 season for sure when we needed him too.

 

My thing is hes not a great blocker, hence not a full back-- he actually misses picking defenders up at all in blitz pickup. When we played Minni, a guy ran around him looking all perplexed,...

 

When he runs, occasionally he will have a bulldozer or quicker than he looks spurt run,.. Jerome Bettis he is not.

 

Otherwise hes a serviceable something of everything, great at nothing player-- just a good teammate and fan favorite.

 

We save 2.4 million by cutting him, only a 1M in dead money. His production is easily replaceable.  Just the truth. If we keep him Im not upset-- I like when he runs over someone---although Kam Chancellor collided with him at full speed both-- and Chancellor, whose lighter by far, not only stopped him but knocked him backwards and put him out to pasture.

 

Stewart ran around Chancellor, and ran through him a couple times-- Stewart gets dumped on because his cap should be like 4 million, not 8, but hes light years better.