Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Can We Still Consider the Panthers a Small Market Franchise?

Jakob

By Jakob,
in Carolina Panthers

Are the Carolina Panthers a Small Market Franchise?  

100 members have voted

  1. 1. Are the Carolina Panthers a Small Market Franchise?


Recommended Posts

Jakob Newbie

Jakob

Posted
Posted

I'm going to keep this short and on point. Can we still consider the Panthers a small market franchise? The Carolina's as a whole would count as the 5th largest state in the country, not to mention the huge fan support in Virginia and Tennessee. We always rank in the top 8-10 in NFL attendance. It's been ages since we haven't sold out a game. The media talks about us fairly regularly and our social media presence is HUGE. So, if we are still considered a small market team, how much longer will it last? Greensboro, Charlotte and Raleigh are three of the fastest going cities in the world. North Carolina's population is skyrocketing. 

 

So, what does #PantherNation have to say?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
O-Ther Newbie

O-Ther

Posted
Posted

When I wear my Panthers gear in Central Florida, people always ask me why I'm a Jaguars fan.

 

Until Carolina establishes a consistent winning tradition, it will remain a regional team with regional fans.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
hepcat Grand Master

hepcat

Posted
Posted

With a player as marketable as Cam Newton, if the Panthers win a Superbowl in his tenure in Carolina, they will be an extremely popular brand.  The Saints enjoyed a solid bump in popularity because of their success.  The Seahawks have enjoyed the same increase in new fans.  Carolina's fanbase is growing and could continue to grow as the wins come.  But as of right now, Carolina is only marginally more popular than other new market teams like the Titans or Jaguars.  The Texans and Browns were football cities for a long time so they don't really compare as well.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Moorgan Enthusiast

Moorgan

Posted
Posted

I wonder if the Packers are a small market franchise seriously?

ive been there. I was shocked they had a team. I get it bc of the history but they would never get a team today. But they now have like almost 100 years of history. We have 20.
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Delhommey Newbie

Delhommey

Posted
Posted

No Carolina city really has much of a national reputation other than Charleston, which is only really known as a tourist spot.

The team has no Super Bowl championships or rich history.

Fandom is restricted to the Carolinas.

Our high "attendance" numbers are often driven by PSL's, and often in reality the stadium is half empty.

So a pretty resounding yes

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Liminy Collaborator

Liminy

Posted
Posted

Over the past 2 seasons I've started to see a couple people sporting Panthers gear in St. Louis besides myself,  and I never hear anything negative really unless it's bitterness over the 2003 playoff game or just people hating on Cam, which usually someone argues about before I can even say anything myself. I think the market is definitely trending up quickly and it won't be long till it becomes a larger market franchise.  I've contemplated moving back to Charlotte myself, but can't pull the trigger yet.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
bigskypanthersguy Rising Star

bigskypanthersguy

Posted
Posted

Over the past 2 seasons I've started to see a couple people sporting Panthers gear in St. Louis besides myself,  and I never hear anything negative really unless it's bitterness over the 2003 playoff game or just people hating on Cam, which usually someone argues about before I can even say anything myself. I think the market is definitely trending up quickly and it won't be long till it becomes a larger market franchise.  I've contemplated moving back to Charlotte myself, but can't pull the trigger yet.

 

I don't know where or when the hell it happened, but over the last year or so my fellow Montanans have been a lot more complimentary about Panther football than I've heard in years.  Just a couple weeks ago, during the draft, when we had one of our two parades in town, a float of guys cheered me on as I crossed the street from the bar across the station due to my Panther fandom.  Nice that we seem to be on an upswing though.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
RelaxImaPro Enthusiast

RelaxImaPro

Posted
Posted

2013 Population Estimates

 

New York City - 8,405,837

Los Angeles - 3,884,307

Chicago - 2,718,782

Houston - 2,195,914

Philadelphia - 1,553,165

Phoenix - 1,513,367

SAN ANTONIO - 1,409,019

San Diego - 1,355,896

Dallas - 1,257,676

SAN JOSE - 998,537

AUSTIN - 885,400

Indianapolis - 843,393

Jacksonville - 842,582

San Francisco - 837,442

COLUMBUS - 822,552

Charlotte - 792,862

 

IMO you go buy the city the team is in. So for now, I'd say the Panthers are a mid-market team. They'll never be a large market team. The bolded cities are cities with no team obviously.

 

Charlotte is the fastest growing city in the United States, and at the rate it's growing it's not long off from the 1 million mark itself.

 

That combined with the hypothetical of us winning a Super Bowl with nationally recognized and highly marketable superstar players like Cam Newton and Luke Kuechly... yeah.  The Panthers could easily see a Seahawks' like explosion in their fanbase (albeit bandwagoners) nationally, and an unprecedented unity in support back in the Carolinas and surrounding areas.  Even though people hate bandwagoners, a good portion of bandwagoners end up becoming lifers.  

 

That's really about all it would take.  We just need to start winning.  That's how culture and fanbases are made.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Goondal Newbie

Goondal

Posted
Posted

2013 Population Estimates

New York City - 8,405,837

Los Angeles - 3,884,307

Chicago - 2,718,782

Houston - 2,195,914

Philadelphia - 1,553,165

Phoenix - 1,513,367

SAN ANTONIO - 1,409,019

San Diego - 1,355,896

Dallas - 1,257,676

SAN JOSE - 998,537

AUSTIN - 885,400

Indianapolis - 843,393

Jacksonville - 842,582

San Francisco - 837,442

COLUMBUS - 822,552

Charlotte - 792,862

IMO you go buy the city the team is in. So for now, I'd say the Panthers are a mid-market team. They'll never be a large market team. The bolded cities are cities with no team obviously .

LA
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Chimera Community Regular

Chimera

Posted
Posted

When I wear my Panthers gear in Central Florida, people always ask me why I'm a Jaguars fan.

 

Until Carolina establishes a consistent winning tradition, it will remain a regional team with regional fans.

 

You can't judge anything based off Floridiots.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • SmokinwithWilly
      Rookies

      By SmokinwithWilly · Posted

      The only thing I said was he was part of the staff that made part of the decisions, and that I am judging the decisions made by that group as a whole. As assistant GM, you can pretty much guarantee his input held more sway than an intern or the guy that takes coffee requests. Fitterer didn't operate in a vacuum. Neither does Morgan now. While Fitterer did have the ultimate decision, to say that Dan had no input in ranking boards, evaluating FAs, trade offers or anything else would be asinine. We all know he did. Otherwise what the hell was his job as assistant GM? He wouldn't have been kept for 3 years if he was arguing every decision Scott ever made.    And the actual quote was "Morgan has done a bang up job in the draft and FA. Compared to what the last guy did, he is kicking ass and taking names." So is XL kicking ass and Brooks taking names from last years draft or did I get it backwards? We took Wallace over Payton Wilson because he was an injury risk after trading up for a RB with a torn ACL? Which one of the kicking ass and taking names was that?  Maybe we should review the thousands of gameday posts calling for XL to get off the field because he's a bust and can't catch a cold. We could review the posts about Brooks but... And Wilson. He's at 118 tackles this season vs 36 for Wallace.  I gave credit to Dan for a good draft this year. But I'm also not ignoring last year's draft either since he did that one after the last guy too.  That's not a strawman. 
    • shaqattaq
      WE WIN FUG BAKER MAYFIELD THREAD!

      By shaqattaq · Posted

      And then, in week 18, we can take Mayfield out of the game and whoop Bridgewater's @$$ for good measure! Let the former QB revenge train roll on!!
    • MHS831
      I’m starting to believe Nijman….

      By MHS831 · Posted

      If we keep our guards in tact ($$$) and go with Mays at C, some OT depth would be nice. I think we should be happy about CB with Thornton's development (pre injury) and Smith Wade. I think Ransom is developing nicely, but I would like to see a FS type for situations. We suck at ILB and Edge (as a whole). We should be OK at RB.  I hope we sign Dowdle to a short contract. QB?  There are signs of hope and development.  (I don't like our backup QB) TE?  Good draft for TE, but I think we are developing with Evans, Sanders, and Tremble. WR?  A #2 with Coker and Horn in the slot.  XL?  What is that? We should be good in 2026. Morgan does more than draft.  Free agency has been strong too.  (Just emptying my brain on your comment--sorry)
×
×
  • Create New...