KK Short Is The Carolina Panthers Defensive MVP

[electro's horse]

gonna be interesting when the Panthers let star walk to resign kk.

[Khaki Lackey]

This talk of KK being "quiet" at times is ridiculous. He's approaching double digit sacks, which is about as noisy as you can get for a DT.

Edited December 18, 2015 by Khaki Lackey

[KendrickPanther]

I think part of Short's sacks do in fact come from the secondary. Qbs are on notice if they grip it and rip it the Panthers will jump the route and take it to the house. So perhaps when they see pressure they think twice about releasing the ball.

[t96]

Luke's ability to QB the defense on the field is most valuable. He's the best defensive player this league has seen since LT.

[osd22]

I agree, though we have multiple A+ defenders, like Luke, KK, Jno, TD and Coleman. 

[OriginalPantherDan]

This is a defense with elite talent at DL, LB and secondary. I really don't know how to separate the greatness at all three levels, but if you want to tell me it's KK, fine. I also can't argue with the choice of JNo or Luke. They are all All-Pros, and no one is slighting any of them by choosing another as MVP. I'd personally go with Luke, but I'm not convinced I'm right. They're all phenomenal. 

[PhillyB]

the flip side of DTs helping out CBs is that CBs also help DTs, by covering guys well enough to allow more time for pass rushes to develop. the argument for kawann short stands strong without invoking that fallacy imo

whoever it is it's a testament to this team that we're arguing over which outstanding, play-making, all-pro-talent-level player is the best badass on the roster.

[Zaximus]

I think this is a good problem to have, discussing who on your team is the defensive MVP lol.   It could go either way depending on how you look at it. 

[PhillyB]

35 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

gonna be interesting when the Panthers let star walk to resign kk.

star won't demand that big of a contract. top ten money for his position bottoms out at 6 a year, which we can afford when charles johnson's hit clears

[NJPanthers12]

He's third 

[electro's horse]

12 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

star won't demand that big of a contract. top ten money for his position bottoms out at 6 a year, which we can afford when charles johnson's hit clears

Corey Liuget is a good comparison point

 

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-diego-chargers/corey-liuget/

[Peppers90 NC]

I dont think anyone would argue that about Short, but nor could they argue if someone suggest Luke or Josh either. I love the fact we have a game-changing DT.

[thefuzz]

5 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Corey Liuget is a good comparison point

 

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-diego-chargers/corey-liuget/

A little rich for my blood, but if we want to continue to win defensively, I don't see how we don't pay the man.

Guessing that KK will want McCoy money....that ones going to hurt.

[Ra's Al Ghul]

1 hour ago, Jeremy Igo said:

KK Short Is The Carolina Panthers Defensive MVP ... at least in my opinion. 

Allow me to state my case....

Yes, Luke Kuechly and Josh Norman are both playing at incredibly high levels. One could make a valid argument for either to be the defensive MVP. But for me, it is all about KK Short. 

Point 1 - The Panthers kept winning without Luke Kuechly.

This is not a knock on Luke Kuechly at all, but more an endorsement of the amount of amazing talent on the Panthers defense. Even with Kuechly out for several games, the Panthers kept on trucking. 

Point 2 - Josh Norman benefits from the play of KK Short.

 I am a huge Josh Norman advocate, have been for years. No one can deny how he has dominated his opponents this season. But Norman has benefited from the play of KK Short. With Short applying pressure from the interior, QB's are forced to make throws that otherwise would not be made. 

Point 3 - Those KK Stats 

44 Combined Tackles

9 Sacks

81 Yards lost on Sacks

4 Passes Defended 

3 Forced Fumbles

2 Fumble recovery

These numbers are All-Pro caliber numbers for a defensive tackle. 

Point 4 - Game Winning Play.

Yes, Josh Norman single handedly saved the Panthers from a loss with his last second interception against New Orleans. Incredible play. But KK Short also saved the Panthers from having a loss this season. Against the Texans, it was Short's pressure that forced an intentional grounding by Ryan Mallet and kept Houston from scoring. 

For the Panthers, it all starts with that defensive line and particularly the interior of the defensive line. KK Short is by far the best player in that unit which has dominated this season. 

Therefore, he is my defensive MVP. 

 

 

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I agree, I think his play impacts the rest of the D the most.

His rush helps the back seven not the other way around.