Interesting Article on Josh Norman Over At Football Outsider*

[SetfreexX]

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/film-room/2016/film-room-josh-norman

 

22 Apr 2016

Film Room: Josh Norman

by Cian Fahey

Sometimes things in the NFL move quickly. Tuesday night, Josh Norman was a free agent under the franchise tag in Carolina. Wednesday night, the Panthers rescinded that franchise tag, leaving Norman free to sign anywhere he wanted. Friday night, we learned that Norman wanted to sign with Washington, who gave him a five-year, $75 million contract that includes $50 million in guarantees and makes him the highest paid cornerback in football. Does Norman have what it takes to live up to a deal like that?

 

[stirs]

Great article, Redskins continue to be foolish

[PanthersBigD]

I would love for Josh to have continued success. However I find it hard to believe he'll play well enough/long enough in Washington to justify 50MM guaranteed. 

[chknwing]

Norman was asked to play man coverage during the giants game and odell smoked him on those plays. just saying.

[SetfreexX]

I have no idea what WAS scheme is, but IMO Norman is excellent off the ball with his eyes on the QB playing read and react football. He's kinda slight so his press game just seemed avg to me. 

Heath Evans made a Asante Samuel / Bill Belichek reference where Belichek felt Samuel was th ebest DB in the league with his back to the left sideline, and was not gonna pay him what PHI offered. Then Samuel goes to PHI plays well, but not to the level he played in New England. 

I could see a similar result in Washington, where he plays, well, but not quite the same level given the point I think he'll be asked to play more one on one like a Revis or Peterson. No reason to pay that kind of money if you don't anticipate using this guy to lock up the number one receiver, most downs.  

[Dex]

GMan does it again.

[joemac]

Josh isn't fast enough to excel in man coverage against any good WR with wheels. He was a great piece in our defense, but I'm dubious on his prospects as a so called shut down corner, especially in a system that isn't as good as ours...He will be a good player for them, but I think this past year will be Josh's last time on the All Pro team.

[PntherPryd]

FYI... Initial reports of $50m guaranteed appear to be incorrect.  Total is $36.5m

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/04/23/josh-norman-gets-36-5-million-fully-guaranteed-at-signing/

 

Per a source with knowledge of the deal, Norman will receive a $15 million signing bonus along with $36.5 million fully guaranteed, earned over the first two years. While that’s not $50 million (duh), it’s a great payout for a deal signed on April 22.

 

[bLACKpANTHER]

All I know is that 2x a year I will be rooting FOR Josh against OBJ.. I hope the best for him, because I know in Carolina he had a lot of people keeping him in check.. Now in DC he will be surrounded by Yes Men and Josh is really a model of restraint.

[imminent rogaine]

Not a bad analysis. This did catch my eye, though:

"Gettleman understood that he could rely on the strength of his front seven to alleviate the pressure on his back four. He wouldn't blitz, so he could keep seven defenders in coverage as often as possible."

One: Gettleman has nothing to do with deciding to blitz since he isn't a coach. Two: We blitzed quite frequently.

[Peppers90 NC]

26 minutes ago, joemac said:

Josh isn't fast enough to excel in man coverage against any good WR with wheels. He was a great piece in our defense, but I'm dubious on his prospects as a so called shut down corner, especially in a system that isn't as good as ours...He will be a good player for them, but I think this past year will be Josh's last time on the All Pro team.

He uses his hands well at the LOS, re routing the WR meaning he only has to keep up for a couple seconds. Straight line speed is the most overrated attribute by casual fans.

[SetfreexX]

15 minutes ago, imminent rogaine said:

Not a bad analysis. This did catch my eye, though:

"Gettleman understood that he could rely on the strength of his front seven to alleviate the pressure on his back four. He wouldn't blitz, so he could keep seven defenders in coverage as often as possible."

One: Gettleman has nothing to do with deciding to blitz since he isn't a coach. Two: We blitzed quite frequently.

We really didn't blitz as much as you may remember...

23

24

CAR

161

681

23.6%

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/02/11/sig-stats-team-blitzing/

That's less than a quarter of our snaps, we are a heavy zone team that INDEED relies on the front four for pressure. That is why DB's are devalued slightly less here than on other rosters. 

19

4

CAR

520

30

37

86

23.5

On top of that, we actually got WORSE this past season at blitzing. Not trying to call you out, just offering some stats with the feedback. 

[mc52beast]

Norman vs OBJ 2x a year

Norman vs Bryant 2x a year

Makes for great television

[gorillamilitia13]

lol at all these people talking bad on Norman now hes gone. lets be real Norman is an excellent talent and we lost maybe the best cb in the game.