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Sooners reporter talks Williams, Sanchez


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22 minutes ago, Matthias said:

Wasn't Williams on his way to starting at RT before the injury?  I hope he steps up because I just don't believe in Remmers.

They were never going to mix up the o-line during the season unless a change was necessary. The line was a strength every game but the Atlanta one and the Super Bowl (both where Norwell was hurt...).

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45 minutes ago, thomas96 said:

They were never going to mix up the o-line during the season unless a change was necessary. The line was a strength every game but the Atlanta one and the Super Bowl (both where Norwell was hurt...).

Sorry, I meant during the preseason last year.  I felt like if Williams didn't get injured, he would have been our RT.

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1 hour ago, ColumbusCounty said:

Exit Remmers Enter Williams and  TE not named Dickson. Along w/ Fully healed Stewart... Will always remember him flipping over that New Orleans player. ..whoever it was.

IIRC, Jonathon Vilma.

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2 hours ago, KB_fan said:

As I keep reflecting on our Oline situation and the surprising lack of adding additional depth up til now.... it's helping me to think of the uniqueness of the Oline and the importance of continuity and chemistry.

As LinvilleGorge just said, it's not like WR where the more competition the better.  You don't want to be rotating guys and trying out a lot of combinations at Oline if you have a solid line with good chemistry.

I'm pretty happy with our current line.  If Daryl Williams can win a spot from Remmers and prove an upgrade at RT, so much the better.

My two concerns are:

1) Lack of solid depth in case of injury at OT.  Yes, we'll have either Remmers or Williams as one backup, but it would be nice to have another backup at tackle - especially one with some experience at LT.  But we can hopefully pick up some experienced vet who gets cut between now and the start of the season.   If the guy is experienced in a system similar to ours, it might not require him to get a lot of reps with the team in training camp, especially if he's OT#4 on the roster - basically the emergency Oline backup.

2) Four of our Five current Oline starters will be in contract years:  Kalil, Oher, Norwell & Remmers.  For awhile I was talking about needing to find and groom Oline backups behind these starters as insurance.  But the more I think about it, I'm realizing that it's hard to develop new Oline players behind full-time starters because of not wanting to mess with the chemistry.  We've already been developing Daryl Williams.  We don't really have a lot of room to try and give some other Oline project any real snaps.

So... I think the plan is going to be to do what it takes to re-sign most of our Oline,  Hopefully they won't all look for top dollar.  (LT is expensive, but Oher's age may keep his Cap hit reasonable.  Norwell & Turner are likely to be pretty pricey.)  But I think we have the cap space to keep most of our line intact for a few more years, and our lack of Oline signings make me think this could be the direction our FO wants to go.

 

TL;DR:  I still want another LT with playing experience to be added to the roster as backup, but barring injury disaster, I'm guessing G'man & co are planning on continuity with this group for awhile.

Finding legit LT experience is obviously hard, but this guy says Dennis Kelly from the Eagles will be a likely cut.  Cheap, solid, young backup (taking his word for it) with one year left on his deal and experience on both sides.

https://nflspinzone.com/2016/05/18/philadelphia-eagles-5-vets-wont-survive-training-camp/3/

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The never gave up a sack stat in his last year in college might not be that big of a deal.  Oklahoma was a heavy run team.  They didn't pass that much, and when they did, the passes tended to be short passes.  They only had six sacks given up in conference games for the year. But they had a dominant run offense and he was a big part of that. 

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1 hour ago, Matthias said:

Sorry, I meant during the preseason last year.  I felt like if Williams didn't get injured, he would have been our RT.

He got hurt week 1, pretty sure he played all the preseason games. Remmers was, and possibly still will be this year, the best option. Super Bowl was ugly, yes. That doesn't take away the other 18 games he played well over last season. SB was ugly for 90% of the team.

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32 minutes ago, thomas96 said:

He got hurt week 1, pretty sure he played all the preseason games. Remmers was, and possibly still will be this year, the best option. Super Bowl was ugly, yes. That doesn't take away the other 18 games he played well over last season. SB was ugly for 90% of the team.

No he was bad in the ATL game too, all the way down to the last play. The only 2 games we just happened to lose. 

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Here's  a challenge: Name a really good right tackle in the NFL (no googling).

Right tackles are always lesser known than their leftward counterparts. And it's not at all unusual for them to only be average to slightly above average players. Teams just don't tend to invest heavily in that spot.

If your team does have a good RT, it's probably either because he's a high pick they're grooming to move left or they got lucky on a late rounder (i.e. what we're hoping happens with Williams).

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