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What will a Gettleman post-season presser sound like...

mc52beast

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1 hour ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

Outside not drafting a DE and SS, not much is his fault.

- Oher is likely done in the NFL.

- Kalil and Gino went to IR.

- Williams is hurt, forcing Turner to play OT while regressing.

- Cam getting targeted by opposing defenses.

- Benjamin and Ealy acting like high school kids.

- Gano missing easy FGs and XPs.

- Kuechly receiving a scary concussion (forcing him out of the rest of season)

- Short being invisible for the first half of the campaign.

The buck stops at unfortunate injuries and horrible coaching. Not lack of talent. 

 

LOOOOL 

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All I know is anyone who thought this offensive line was ok had blinders on and Newton and Shula are going to see blitzing until they prove they can handle it. 

...best draft a playmaker RB (no Artis Payneis not the answer ) and a decent FB and catching TE to complement Olsen.

....oh yeah, and if they love Shula's dad so much that they can't cut the son, at least bring in Norv Turner as a consultant 

....and do  some thing in self analysis called honesty.  This team will not measure up without it

 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

Yes, it's coaching. Shula doesn't know how to open up the passing game without Cam running the Read Option. It was our ability to run on defenses that allowed Ginn, Olsen, Brown, Funchess, etc to slip through. Now that we're missing two key starters and Cam isn't allowed to run, defenses are pinning their ears back. We're fugged... unless Shula and Rivera find a solution and adjust to the issue at hand. Seattle did, and their offensive woes were just as bad as ours.

You can blame our secondary too but we've had worse starting and we still succeeded when our front seven were generating pressure. Our DL finally picked it up but it's too late now. Again, that falls on coaching for failing to address the issue (sending Ealy back to RE, making Addison start at LE) and adjusting.

We've seen this bullpoo before. Let's not get sudden amnesia. Ron can't properly evaluate talent,... or won't. Ex: Tolbert, Cason, etc

I don't think we've ever been the 30th ranked pass defense in Ron's tenure here. 

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5 minutes ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

Is he still Cam? The Huddle seemed to rejoice when Cam scrambled against The Raiders. In all honesty, it's felt like weeks since I've seen Cam like that.

Tolbert has severely declined but Stewart, Olsen, Turner, Norwell, Kalil, etc are fine. Some have regressed though.

I've seen some poo in my life.  But making excuses just like the Coaches, for a mediocre GM on your favorite team?  That's some next level bull poo there.  

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5 minutes ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

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Yeah it's fugin stupid.  They've been looking for reasons to bitch about Gettleman and because we don't overreact and want him fired, we're the idiots. I think we should just hire a new GM every year. That should make them happy 

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4 minutes ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

Clearly, you haven't seen enough then...

The list of injuries to our key contributors isn't an outlier. You guys like to complain that Norman's chemistry with our secondary was crucial. Well, what about Kalil's and Oher's chemistry with our OL? 

What? It doesn't fit your argument for the Gettleman bashing rhetoric?

Every team has injuries.  In the end, it's a fuging excuse.  He has to do better next off season.  Plain and simple.  

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2 hours ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

Outside not drafting a DE and SS, not much is his fault.

- Oher is likely done in the NFL.

- Kalil and Gino went to IR.

- Williams is hurt, forcing Turner to play OT while regressing.

- Cam getting targeted by opposing defenses.

- Benjamin and Ealy acting like high school kids.

- Gano missing easy FGs and XPs.

- Kuechly receiving a scary concussion (forcing him out of the rest of season)

- Short being invisible for the first half of the campaign.

The buck stops at unfortunate injuries and horrible coaching. Not lack of talent. 

 

I mostly agree but he has ignored the 'talent' depth on the Oline for some time now.. we all knew the CBs were going to struggle and the defense wasn't going to be as good without Josh.. The offense is what threw me and the rest of us for a loop.. when that Oline blew up in our faces - that's when the excuses become easy, but our struggles were well documented before it all went to sh!t..

Gman could have kept Josh and gotten one more solid OT/OG instead of banking on the patchwork Oline made up of UDFAs and journeymen..

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20 minutes ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

Is he still Cam? The Huddle seemed to rejoice when Cam scrambled against The Raiders. In all honesty, it's felt like weeks since I've seen Cam like that.

Tolbert has severely declined but Stewart, Olsen, Turner, Norwell, Kalil, etc are fine. Some have regressed though.

How much has Kalil played this year? And Turner has been getting abused lately 

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Just now, Promethean Forerunner said:

Yes, and it's up to our coaching to adjust.

Again, Seattle continues to prove why they are consistent: stellar coaching.

No matter what happens (UDFA and rookie filled OL, Wilson getting injured, losing Thomas for the season, not having Rawls healthy for majority of the season, etc), they still manage to win. We don't.

Seattle undoubtedly has better coaching, but they also are good at keeping their strengths a strength. 

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3 minutes ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

Yes, and it's up to our coaching to adjust.

Again, Seattle continues to prove why they are consistent: stellar coaching.

No matter what happens (UDFA and rookie filled OL, Wilson getting injured, losing Thomas for the season, not having Rawls healthy for majority of the season, etc), they still manage to win. We don't.

They have the best defense in the NFL, scoring wise year in and out.  It's easy to do, when the majority of their secondary is still intact.  Thomas got hurt vs us.

Guess who gets those players?  The GM gets those players............

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