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Ladies and gentlemen, the Cleveland Browns

Mr. Scot

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panthers55 Grand Master

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This is Cleveland. Of course they will draft Trubisky with the number 1 pick. If I were them I would double down with  Watson if he is still there at 12. And I would draft a quarterback every year until I finally found someone. The last time Cleveland had a good quarterback it was Bernie Kosar. And he wasn't that great.

For some reason Cleveland is where quarterbacks go to disappear.

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For a team without a quarterback if it is ANYWHERE close you have to pick them.  Honestly they should take a quarterback at 1 and 12. If they select sure fire defensive players at 1 and 12 guess what, they will still suck as a team. They need to keep drafting quaterbacks until they find one that can play.

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1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Trubisky over someone like Myles Garrett though?

You'd have to have a pretty impressive argument to talk me into that.

I can't argue on behalf of Trubisky's value, although a lot of pundits who are more versed than I have. And yes, they could end up instead with a Julius Peppers-like defensive player instead if they wanted. But really, which is going to do the most good for the Browns.

This is the Browns we are talking about here. The Browns.

They have no QB and have had no history of even passable QBs since they ran Derek Anderson out of town. They have receivers, they have a running back or two that are fair to good. Reasonably good tight end. Their offensive line isn't unfixable. Just no QB of any ability or capability of growing with a team. Or leading a team.

Defensively, they are fair to middling. And in the NFL, if you are fair to middling, one or two moderate free agent pick ups can get you competitive if you have at least an average or better QB.

I'm not saying it has to be Trubisky. I am saying, though, that if they don't pick now when they have the chance to grab the best one out there available, the opportunity might not come back again for a while. And there will be good defensive players when they come back in to choose as #12. The best QB might not be there at #12, which would require some finessing on their part to pick the best of the remaining ones.

I rest my case by pointing to their track record in that department.

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1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Trubisky over someone like Myles Garrett though?

You'd have to have a pretty impressive argument to talk me into that.

Ok, pretend it's 2011 again.  Having watched the Pickle Show, in the draft we pass on Cam and take PP. 

 

This is the mind set of a Brown right now.

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8 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

I can't argue on behalf of Trubisky's value, although a lot of pundits who are more versed than I have. And yes, they could end up instead with a Julius Peppers-like defensive player instead if they wanted. But really, which is going to do the most good for the Browns.

This is the Browns we are talking about here. The Browns.

They have no QB and have had no history of even passable QBs since they ran Derek Anderson out of town. They have receivers, they have a running back or two that are fair to good. Reasonably good tight end. Their offensive line isn't unfixable. Just no QB of any ability or capability of growing with a team. Or leading a team.

Defensively, they are fair to middling. And in the NFL, if you are fair to middling, one or two moderate free agent pick ups can get you competitive if you have at least an average or better QB.

I'm not saying it has to be Trubisky. I am saying, though, that if they don't pick now when they have the chance to grab the best one out there available, the opportunity might not come back again for a while. And there will be good defensive players when they come back in to choose as #12. The best QB might not be there at #12, which would require some finessing on their part to pick the best of the remaining ones.

I rest my case by pointing to their track record in that department.

This. If you don't have a QB and you think there's a franchise QB available, you pretty much have to take him. Don't try to get cute and play the value game. Just take the guy. If you're right, he's worth it. Screw the "value". I think Kizer is overrated as hell, but if I was the Browns, I'd be looking very, VERY hard at Trubisky and Watson.

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13 minutes ago, csx said:

Garrett doesn't even fit their system and moving him to an OLB does not seem prudent with a top overall pick

Garrett's just one example.

Is Trubisky really the single best player available in this draft?

Honestly, I'm not even convinced he's the best quarterback.

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3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Trubisky over someone like Myles Garrett though?

You'd have to have a pretty impressive argument to talk me into that.

At 12 there will still be several DE available. At least 2 of Taco, Solomon, Smoot, and Barnett should be there. IF they think Sky is their franchise guy, it makes sense. I really don't know that much about either but in the few UNC games I've watched this year, Trubisky looked legit.

Edit: if they don't pick Garrett, that's one more pass rusher on the board at 8... Fug the browns!

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15 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Garrett's just one example.

Is Trubisky really the single best player available in this draft?

Honestly, I'm not even convinced he's the best quarterback.

No idea but hes been talked about as the first pick a good amount. It seems no more risky that Garrett.

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