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Payton "playing up" Ginn. The truth is out there...

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26 minutes ago, csx said:

1000 yards seasons are overrated since fans will make a huge distinction between 990 yards and 1010 yards. I realize Ginn hasn't done either. However 10 td seasons are not overrated and neither is speed. 

Ginn is a fast/deep threat with questionable hands. 10 TD seasons often ties to the system. Jericho Cotchery had 10 TDs his last year in Pittsburgh and 4 total his last two years with us. Maybe Ginn will be the receiver we had in Charlotte (19 TDs) - but there's just as good of a chance that he is the same guy we saw in Miami, San Fran, and Arizona (6 total catching TDs in 7 seasons). If Payton draws up plays to get him involved and Brees gets him the ball, he could be a huge weapon in space for NOLA. But if the game is on the line and he's wide open, they will be upset when he drops a perfectly thrown ball. 

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While I don't think Ginn is going to be nearly as successful in New Orleans, I really don't think we should sleep on him as a slot receiver with Breezus throwing to him. We know he can take the top off a defense, and if anyone can utilize Ginn to his fullest potential with Brees throwing to him, it will be Payton.

I hope Ted has a good game every week this season, except when he plays us.

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5 minutes ago, Towelboy said:

Ginn is a fast/deep threat with questionable hands. 10 TD seasons often ties to the system. Jericho Cotchery had 10 TDs his last year in Pittsburgh and 4 total his last two years with us. Maybe Ginn will be the receiver we had in Charlotte (19 TDs) - but there's just as good of a chance that he is the same guy we saw in Miami, San Fran, and Arizona (6 total catching TDs in 7 seasons). If Payton draws up plays to get him involved and Brees gets him the ball, he could be a huge weapon in space for NOLA. But if the game is on the line and he's wide open, they will be upset when he drops a perfectly thrown ball. 

I'm just trying to jump start this discussion. I can't figure out the purpose of it. The coach said some words about his free agent. I don't see the X-Files conspiracy here.

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Ginn could have had 15 or more touchdowns and over 1200 yards in 2015 if not for his usual drop antics.

I think Brees will find him useful at times, but he's a boom or bust candidate every time he touches the ball if there ever was one.

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1 minute ago, Mojo said:

I'm not a hater.  Being 100% real, If there's anyone who can fully utilize a player on offense it's Sean Payton.  This story is weak though.

Imagine Cam paired up with a guy like Payton.

All BS aside that would be quite the pairing 

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I mean, yeah, it's a lot of fluff, but there is also some truth to what he's saying.  Ginn is still the fastest guy on the field...  and that is an asset that can't be understated.

I think there's a lot of faux-indifference about him going to new orleans, and it is rooted in fear. Brees gets guys the ball by anticipating the openings.  Ginn improved immensely as a route runner here.  So yes, I do fear that he'll find a groove there that he didn't even tap into here.  

He excelled here bc Cam thrives on the deep ball and likely has the biggest arm in the league, so all he had to really do was react to the defender and GO.  If they played too far back, we hit him on a smoke route.  Played too far up, they were toast for a deep bomb.  And then we mixed in some crossing routes to accentuate his speed advantage.

New Orleans has a lot more routes and route combinations that could work to his advantage...  and again, Brees' strength is hitting guys in stride.  So, i'd like to write him off like I don't care, but I do.  And i wouldnt be surprised if he puts up even bigger numbers with them than he did here.

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