Hypothetical: We trade up to No.2 and Browns pass on Garrett - Garrett or Fournette

[RumHam]

2 hours ago, Promethean Forerunner said:

Julius Peppers isn't a mentor.

pretty much this

[yasuhara2241]

I really have come to the conclusion that I want Fournette BUT not over Garrett. I believe we might have a trade in place ONLY if Garrett is available. I do not believe Gettleman will trade all those picks for a RB. He might do it for a DE but I still don't think this is happening. I will be completely shocked if we do any type of trading up with our 1st pick. 

[DaveThePanther2008]

I clicked on Garrett and switched to Fournette. 

The pressure he would take off Cam would really help.

[Saca312]

14 minutes ago, Devin said:

Respect your intelligence but I think there's a legit question here.  

I would take fournette.  I think he is less of a risk.  Myles garrett could bust.  Happens all the time with these "can't miss" DE's.  if you're picking #2  priority number 1 is picking a player that is GOING to return on investment.  You have a higher chance of that by picking fournette than picking Garrett.   Now,  I'm  NOT saying that fournette couldn't bust,  but I'm saying if we're playing roulette I'm putting my chips on fournette if we talking #2 pick in the draft.  Stakes are too high.  Go with the surer thing.

 

Fournette's more of a risk than Garrett. Far more. Fournette comes from a man blocking scheme with a lead FB to pave the way, and last time we had that scheme was with Fox during the Stephen Davis era.

 

[Saca312]

Considering the fact at #2 Fournette would have the most guaranteed money out of every league RB while Garrett would be dirt cheap is telling.

[chbright]

1 minute ago, Saca312 said:

Fournette's more of a risk than Garrett. Far more. Fournette comes from a man blocking scheme with a lead FB to pave the way, and last time we had that scheme was with Fox during the Stephen Davis era.

 

QFT! top RB bust at an absurdly high right. I like Fournette, but agree he isn't the same tier as MG. I'm not sure MG is in the Super Mario or Pep athlete, but he is really close. 

 

I think Fournette is a far more capable back that Davis. I love Davis, but LF7 has a gear Davis wishes he had. At 4-8 I can see Fournette as a candidate but its a steep $ investment at a short life span position. 

 

God I hope we can get 2 and the Browns go Trubisky.

[Malt Liquor]

With our current situation Fournette would be a better pick for us.

[MrBubba]

Its not an issue, any trade with San Fran won't be confirmed till they are on the clock and if Garret is on the board, they won't make any deal.  

[Devin]

41 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

Fournette's more of a risk than Garrett. Far more. Fournette comes from a man blocking scheme with a lead FB to pave the way, and last time we had that scheme was with Fox during the Stephen Davis era.

 

I don't think that substantiates your concern.  A FB isn't what makes fournette fournette.   An argument I could make about Garrett is that about half his production came against cupcakes .

Garrett stats:

2016:  8.5 sacks  

4.5 of those came in one game...  against the powerhouse of a school that is the University of Texas.....  at San Antonio (not the longhorns)

2015:  11.5 sacks 

3.5 in a game versus Nevada and 2 in a game against Arizona state.  

 

2014:  11 sacks 

2.5 against Rice and 3.5 versus the Louisiana Monroe warhawks 

 

total:  31 sacks.    16 coming from the games against the opponents listed above.   

 

If its fair game to substiantiate risk because a runner has a FB,  then it's fair to substantiate risk when half of your production comes from subpar teams.

 

Garrett could easily bust.  Fournette's the lesser risk IMO 

 

 

 

 

[Marguide]

8 hours ago, Bronn said:

Both are generational talents, but Garrett by a mile.

I would seriously like to shoot whoever first started using that term.

How can you talk about Garrett, for example, as generational when we've seen guys come out in the last 5 years or so just as good? The same applies to LF. 

They should be great players, but they have a lot of competition with other great players over the last 25 years.

[uncfan888]

Garrett is the best player in the draft. You take Garrett and run

[Wundrbread33]

QFT! top RB bust at an absurdly high right. I like Fournette, but agree he isn't the same tier as MG. I'm not sure MG is in the Super Mario or Pep athlete, but he is really close. 
 
I think Fournette is a far more capable back that Davis. I love Davis, but LF7 has a gear Davis wishes he had. At 4-8 I can see Fournette as a candidate but its a steep $ investment at a short life span position. 
 
God I hope we can get 2 and the Browns go Trubisky.

You do realize that Davis was a prep track star and the #1 recruit in his class right?

Dude ran a 10.40 100 meters...SC state record that stood for nearly two decades.


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[Montsta]

I'd be more excited for CJ to mentor Garrett than Peppers. 

Peppers is a freak athlete that has had a stellar career largely based on being the biggest fastest guy out there. 

CJ seems like more of a lunchpail work hard type guy. 

Obviously I know neither of them and it's speculation, just my two cents.