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Statistics: A Data/Analytical View Of The Panthers 2017 Draft


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A very good breakdown of our draft prospects in a statistical manner. Comparing data from old trends to our prospects, and predicting the likability of success in certain tiers, this provides a wealth of information for the stat geeks who love comparative analysis.

The content creator says the following as an explanation for where the data is from:

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I collected raw data for production from college football reference and various school websites. The athleticism data is nfldraftscout.com and various CBS Sports, NFL.com sites. Same with arm length, hand size stuff.

The actual metrics for the athletic data was inspired from Waldo, Justis Mosqueda "forceplayers" stuff, while market share for defense was entirely created by my own idea.

People already were using market share to evaluate offensive players like WR/TE. I just applied it on defense to see if there were similar patterns.

 

Here's the video:

Certain things to highlight:

1. RB Christian McCaffrey - One Of The Best Market Share Scores Since 1969

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Essentially, market share when evaluating players is simply what it is - comparing the prospect with other similar prospects and seeing how they compare. McCaffrey scored above and beyond everyone else in this metric, shattering through the rankings as one of the top prospects he's ever evaluated on the runningback side since the 1960s. 

He gives the following analysis of McCaffrey on his website, which I will show some of here:

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McCaffrey had one elite athletic trait in flexibility. which is measured by the SS/3C. Backs that are similar to McCaffrey’s athletic profile are LeSean McCoy, Frank Gore and Ahmad Bradshaw. He wins with speed, but the biggest athletic attribute is being extremely flexible in his hips and ankles. McCaffrey tested elite in the athleticism traits we see on tape and that’s a win.

McCaffrey has great vision, good burst and plenty of elusiveness in the open field. And [against Kansas State], he had the best effort play chasing down a fumble off a botched exchange I’ve seen in awhile.

It was Rod Smithesque.

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McCaffrey''s explosiveness, speed, and flexibility are top notch in comparison to other athletes, and validate his placement as one of the best prospects from the 2017 draft according to the analyst. He believes McCaffrey showcases traits you don't see from normal prospects, and has a high chance to achieve multiple All-Pro seasons.

That's some crazy good stuff.

2. DE Daeshon Hall - More Potential Than Taco Charlton Taken As A Steal

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The analyst talks glowingly of Daeshon Hall. Comparing Daeshon to Taco as prospect, they both have plenty of raw traits. Nevertheless, they're similar in how they're of prototypical 4-3 monstrous DE size, and have a lot of potential.

However, Hall's athleticism is far superior to Taco Charlton in nearly every category.

When it comes to explosiveness, speed, and flexibility, Hall annihilates Charlton in every category. He also has superior stats in a lot of other areas in comparison to Charlton, making him a well-rounded project to work on for a few years. 

Makes sense, especially when you see how athletic Hall looks doing drills.

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Flips the hips and explodes with every step. A kid with a lot of potential

3. OT Taylor Moton: Extremely Similar To Former Panther Jordan Gross

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Taylor Moton may be smaller in height in comparison to some tackles, but that doesn't look like much of a problem when compared to OTs of similar style. In fact, he's pretty similar in comp to Former Panther Jordan Gross according to the analyst.

He likes Moton's insane athleticism, and his all around traits. He compares and projects well, and he believes Moton has a very bright future from the stats.

Some good stuff. What do you guys think?

 

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Thanks for posting this.  I saw a link to the original on Twitter, but a combination of terrible internet here lately, plus a beastly-busy schedule (trying to finish tons of stuff before i head to the States at the end of the month) meant I never clicked on it. 

Can't wait to see what CMC becomes as a Panther.  Picking up Moton has definitely helped calm my concerns about our Oline (though I still have some until I see Kalil play... and find out what's happening with Oher.)

Really looking forward to this season!

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1 hour ago, stbugs said:

I think CMC, Samuel and Moton will be solid, but if Hall can turn into a solid DE, we've got an amazing draft class. The rest is just hope.

I agree with you. It also seems like Corn Elder has been getting lots of love around the media so he might be a guy that will be able to take Nickel duties if something happens to Captain. 

I, like everybody else, am intrigued by Armah. Big bruising blocking back, but since he did also play TE, he could also be motioned to a 2 TE set or catch out of the backfield. 

Everybody wants Gano gone, but it's going to be hard for a rookie to take his place IMO. 

Overall, looks like a very solid draft but we think that every year!

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