Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Stats: Greg Olsen Has The Potential To Be Even Deadlier With Our New Rookies

Saca312

By Saca312,
in Carolina Panthers

Recommended Posts

panthers55 Grand Master

panthers55

Posted
Posted
3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Then stop. I honestly forgot who you were, now I remember. The pot is really calling the kettle black on this on.

Your are right, I will stop. You clearly are going to just go down another bunny trail and will have to get the last word so have at it. No need to discuss anything unless there is the hope of give and take and clearly that is a waste of time and effort here.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
LinvilleGorge Grand Master

LinvilleGorge

Posted
Posted
1 minute ago, panthers55 said:

Your are right, I will stop. You clearly are going to just go down another bunny trail and will have to get the last word so have at it. No need to discuss anything unless there is the hope of give and take and clearly that is a waste of time and effort here.

Again, the pot calls the kettle black, but whatever.

Agree to agree. We'll drop it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Jeremy Igo Newbie

Jeremy Igo

Posted
Posted

When the Panthers drafted Funchess, the idea was that he could play any receiver position on the field. The fact hat Greg is in the slot quite a bit might point to lack of development by Funchess. 

 

Or, it may allude to Rivera saying that they did not use Funchess properly. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Hogmolliesmaht Newbie

Hogmolliesmaht

Posted
Posted
9 hours ago, L-TownCat said:

Maybe not having a true slot receiver is the reason our offense was stagnant instead of needing a second tight end?

Honestly, it seems like the biggest difference between 2015 and 2016 was Cotchery. If you go back and watch some of the tougher games for the offense, like the one against Dallas, it was Cotchery who bailed Cam out when everything else wasn't working.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Sasquatch Explorer

Sasquatch

Posted
Posted
9 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

When lined up as a tackle eligible? Yes, they can.

fatpat.0.gif

That play only worked as a gadget play in that situation. Jackson bit on the play fake to Blount (like many in the stadium). Not a good idea as a rule to sacrifice a matchup. LBs and Ss will generally have little issue with covering an OT running a route.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Ken Newbie

Ken

Posted
Posted
11 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Ed Dickson: 478 snaps, 19 pass targets. That's less than 4% of the time that Dickson was on the field that he received a pass. It'd be interesting if anyone has compiled stats on the percentage of time a tackle eligible is targeted with a pass. I have a suspicion it wouldn't look much different than that. We were basically treating Dickson as a tackle eligible.

A better stat for this argument would be how many times he ran a route. Pass targets not really a true picture.

Not sure if that stat is available since pff revamped their stats site.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
LinvilleGorge Grand Master

LinvilleGorge

Posted
Posted
10 minutes ago, Ken said:

A better stat for this argument would be how many times he ran a route. Pass targets not really a true picture.

Not sure if that stat is available since pff revamped their stats site.

Not sure, but if you actually want a defense to take a guy seriously as a receiver, you gotta actually throw him the ball more than 4% of the time.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
KB_fan Proficient

KB_fan

Posted
Posted
On 6/16/2017 at 10:39 PM, L-TownCat said:

Maybe not having a true slot receiver is the reason our offense was stagnant instead of needing a second tight end?

Yeah, I think we missed Cotchery a heck of a lot more than any of us thought we would.   We were all so focused on losing J No (and Peanut, Allen & Harper), and pretty much assumed our Offense would be fine... returned everyone but Cotch, added KB back... how could we ever miss Cotch?   But we did.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
L-TownCat Grand Master

L-TownCat

Posted
Posted
5 minutes ago, KB_fan said:

Yeah, I think we missed Cotchery a heck of a lot more than any of us thought we would.   We were all so focused on losing J No (and Peanut, Allen & Harper), and pretty much assumed our Offense would be fine... returned everyone but Cotch, added KB back... how could we ever miss Cotch?   But we did.

Just to make one thing perfectly clear....

 

Cotchery caught that fuggin ball.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Tomcatn Proficient

Tomcatn

Posted
Posted
7 hours ago, L-TownCat said:

Just to make one thing perfectly clear....

 

Cotchery caught that fuggin ball.

Except in the SB....I still don't get that one, almost like it was set up that way. Conspiracy theory? Who the hell knows. That game stunk from the word go.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
thefuzz Mentor

thefuzz

Posted
Posted
On 6/16/2017 at 11:47 PM, Saca312 said:

Fair enough, but we never really had that Cotchery type of player that you knew could move the chains on 3rd down. Olsen tried his best, but even that hampered our offensive potential.

To be very honest, I was really worried about our WR's last season...not so much the skill, but the position meetings.

Who was in there?  KB who doesn't seem to care about much, Funch, who is barely 20 years old, Philly, Bersin, Ted Ginn, Proehl......

Not much vet leadership/experience outside of Proehl, and I'm pretty sure he was asked to move on, even if the team doesn't say so.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • carpanfan96
      Panthers Blueprint: Draft

      By carpanfan96 · Posted

      Rumors are the team is in fact done with Ikem. So it was going to be a LT, just depended on which one got to them at 19. 
    • The Third Reich
      Panthers Blueprint: Draft

      By The Third Reich · Posted

      I have not read the entire thread, and I realize this is fluff to a degree, but it was recorded in real time.  Here are 10 things that stood out to me: 1. Morgan wrote down (before day 3) the first three day 3 picks.  (Lee, Hecht, and Wheatley).  I was never fond of the Morgan hiring as GM.  I thought he was a lazy selection and I questioned his ability to match wits with some of the best GMs in the NFL.  Not any more. Morgan OWNED this draft.  He knew which players were good fits and when they would be bargains, and he got bargains.  I am thoroughly excited about every player. 2. Canales said (about Hecht, a 5th rounder):  "He has a real chance to start."   Morgan said the same thing about Freeling. While I do not expect either to start day 1, it looks to me like we drafted 40% of our starting OL in 2026.  I think we will sign Ickey to a deal and play him at RG, allowing us to escape the Robert Hunt contract in 2027.  Of course that is conditional, and Ickey could replace Moton instead, but if he fully recovers, we are looking at a better RG/RT than he was a LT--which was average.  3. When Morgan said to second-round DT Hunter, "Ready to play beside Derrick Brown?"  Based on personalities, one calm and soft spoken (for the Most part, Brown is) and the other talkative and openly enthusiastic, it reminded me of Brentson Buckner and Kris Jenkins.   4.  Perhaps the steal of the draft was Tennessee WR Chris Brazzell II.  Clearly the Panthers felt that they passed on him when they took Hunter in round 2.  They mentioned his skill set (able to attack on "all three levels.")  This sent me back to watching film. He has speed, hands, and he produced without a great QB. I think he could be great in the NFL.  When  5. Tepper was a bit more involved than I would like, but he seems to be very confident in Morgan.  If I were the owner, I would be doing the same thing.  Canales was also somewhat of a background character--everyone understood his role and stayed in his lane.   6.  I am also very interested in the quantitative analytics aspect of the draft room.  (something like, "He has a 94% chance of being there at pick 55, and a 38% chance of being there at 87). I would like to know their formula, because it seemed to be spot on. 7.  BPA?  Not really.  They had a shopping list and seemed to be targeting the players they selected. I realize other players were edited out, but I was impressed how they knew, by round, who they wanted and if there were multiple options sitting there, they traded back. 8.  Evero (I think) called Lee a candidate that would serve as the "#3 CB."  Morgan describes his size as a plus (Long). Strong praise for a 4th rounder.  If so, we have Thornton coming off injury who played well as an UDFA rookie and they will battle it out to become Jackson's replacement after the 2026 season, assuming the Panthers do not extend him (he turns 30 in 7 months.O 9.  I think we could realistically see every one of these draft picks play this season, and I believe most could start by next year--Realistically, Freeling, Hunter, Hecht, and Brazzell could all be starting or key rotational pieces this year.  I see Lee and Wheatley getting special teams reps and both could be used this season more than expected.   10.  Kuwatch seemed to be predetermined with the final pick, probably because he can add something special to special teams.   He and Bam Martin Scott will fight it out for the 4th ILB position, so it will probably come down to special teams--and Kuwatch stands out there.  Imagine an ILB with a 46.5 vertical (not a typo) on the FG block team.  Kuwatch has an 8.85 RAS score vs. Martin-Scott's 7.5.  
    • thunderraiden
      Panthers Blueprint: Draft

      By thunderraiden · Posted

      They did mention Bain as the pick if he fell but didnt seem confident that would be the case. 
×
×
  • Create New...