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If Gettleman's firing has anything to do with not extending geriatric franchise icons we're doomed

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Lots of rumors floating around that Gettleman didn't want to extend Thomas Davis. Lots of rumors floating around Jerry Richardson refused to take no for an answer - they're our guys, they're franchise icons, and we pay them no matter what because we have a heart and a soul. Gettleman refuses to play that game, almost to a fault. See: Smitty and Josh Norman.

If Jerry Richardson really told Gettleman to extend Davis or walk away, this franchise is in awful shape and we should all be very concerned. Every good franchise is good because it's heartless and recognizes that good business often means refusing to manufacture storybook endings for their own sake. We have grown into a viable contender year in and year out largely because of our gradual transition away from that type of franchise, trimming the contract fat and introducing a performance-based culture. We're lean and mean and poised for success for the next half decade.

Whatever you thoughts on Gettleman are, if Jerry Richardson really threw that away so he could cap his waning years with a feel-good contract extension we are going to have a turbulent couple of years and you should prepare for that.

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I don't think people understand how a firing like this works. JR wouldn't fire him just over the handling of the TD situation. But he could fire him if he feels like he is consistently screwing up negotiations making it harder and harder every time. There is no way in the world he was fired just because of the TD negotiations.

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1 hour ago, PhillyB said:

Lots of rumors floating around that Gettleman didn't want to extend Thomas Davis. Lots of rumors floating around Jerry Richardson refused to take no for an answer - they're our guys, they're franchise icons, and we pay them no matter what because we have a heart and a soul. Gettleman refuses to play that game, almost to a fault. See: Smitty and Josh Norman.

If Jerry Richardson really told Gettleman to extend Davis or walk away, this franchise is in awful shape and we should all be very concerned. Every good franchise is good because it's heartless and recognizes that good business often means refusing to manufacture storybook endings for their own sake. We have grown into a viable contender year in and year out largely because of our gradual transition away from that type of franchise, trimming the contract fat and introducing a performance-based culture. We're lean and mean and poised for success for the next half decade.

Whatever you thoughts on Gettleman are, if Jerry Richardson really threw that away so he could cap his waning years with a feel-good contract extension we are going to have a turbulent couple of years and you should prepare for that.

I agree 100 %

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9 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

Lots of rumors floating around that Gettleman didn't want to extend Thomas Davis. Lots of rumors floating around Jerry Richardson refused to take no for an answer - they're our guys, they're franchise icons, and we pay them no matter what because we have a heart and a soul. Gettleman refuses to play that game, almost to a fault. See: Smitty and Josh Norman.

If Jerry Richardson really told Gettleman to extend Davis or walk away, this franchise is in awful shape and we should all be very concerned. Every good franchise is good because it's heartless and recognizes that good business often means refusing to manufacture storybook endings for their own sake. We have grown into a viable contender year in and year out largely because of our gradual transition away from that type of franchise, trimming the contract fat and introducing a performance-based culture. We're lean and mean and poised for success for the next half decade.

Whatever you thoughts on Gettleman are, if Jerry Richardson really threw that away so he could cap his waning years with a feel-good contract extension we are going to have a turbulent couple of years and you should prepare for that.

Couldn't agree more man.  I didn't like Gettlemen, but Lord this is awful.  

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7 minutes ago, sanjay_rajput said:

I beleive it had to do with the slight beef with Ron Rivera  as well. 

Co-sign. 

I think Ron is the type coach Jerry wants and wants to succeed.  I think Dave often was more concerned with building a Dave team big picture and having a certain reputation.

don't forget Dave had a LOT to do with last years horrible season 

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I've grown up with this franchise, I was 10 years old in '95, so I've seen the good and the bad. This reminds me of the franchise I had hoped Gettleman was helping put in the past.

I agree with you Philly, and it makes me sad to think our only hope is JR's eventual removal from the franchise. I hate this because the big cat seems like a great guy, and I love fairy tale endings for our franchise icons too. At the same time I like winning even more. This isn't how you run  a successful franchise.

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4 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

Lots of rumors floating around that Gettleman didn't want to extend Thomas Davis. Lots of rumors floating around Jerry Richardson refused to take no for an answer - they're our guys, they're franchise icons, and we pay them no matter what because we have a heart and a soul. Gettleman refuses to play that game, almost to a fault. See: Smitty and Josh Norman.

If Jerry Richardson really told Gettleman to extend Davis or walk away, this franchise is in awful shape and we should all be very concerned. Every good franchise is good because it's heartless and recognizes that good business often means refusing to manufacture storybook endings for their own sake. We have grown into a viable contender year in and year out largely because of our gradual transition away from that type of franchise, trimming the contract fat and introducing a performance-based culture. We're lean and mean and poised for success for the next half decade.

Whatever you thoughts on Gettleman are, if Jerry Richardson really threw that away so he could cap his waning years with a feel-good contract extension we are going to have a turbulent couple of years and you should prepare for that.

I think it may go beyond story book endings. I think there is some sort of issue with players and Gettleman. Smitty, DeAngelo(who I admit is a child), Norman, TD, and there have been others that we have heard don't exactly like him. 

I think everyone appreciates business savvy but it just might be possible we are dealing with someone who just does not treat people well or with respect in some sense. And nobody likes that. 

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