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Put your big boy pants on and PLEASE STOP!


ladypanther

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2 hours ago, ladypanther said:

Ok guys...24 hours + of shock.  Now time to act like adults.  Things happen in the world we have no control over.  Some of them we like and some we don't.  Some we understand and some we don't.

The rampant speculation (I know all we have) as to why this happened....which many seem to have now taken as fact and are spewing venomous anger toward Mr,. Richardson and even the team and players is a bit much. If you are not going to continue to be a fan because of this....I don't think you were a fan to begin with....but I am not going to argue with anyone on that.

I still love the Panthers.........will support this team and have confidence in our players and coaches to continue to work toward the goal we all have for this team.

I do not understand why this happened...no one does.  It does not matter how many theories are out there.  I wish Mr. Richardson would tell us but he likely will not.  This is a personnel issue and that is universally treated with discretion among professionals.

I prefer now to turn my focus on the excitement of seeing Cam throw the football after all these months...to see our rookies in their 1st NFL action..and when the season starts..to see "The Evolution."

Nothing wrong with having opinions but a lot of this stuff is over the top..some quite unbelievable.  I am going to trust that Mr. Richardson would not have made such a bold move at this time if he did not have a good reason.  I do not of course know what that is and neither do any of you.

 

Calm down guys.

 

Bravo Bravo Bravo!!!!!

As always Keep Pounding my fellow Huddlers!!!!

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38 minutes ago, Car123 said:

 

Hurney became GM in 2002.

Injuries derailed our 2004 and 2007 seasons. Steve Smith, Stephen Davis, Foster, Kris Jenkins in 2004 and Delhomme in 2007 (Delhomme was the hottest QB to begin that season). 2003-2008 was a better stretch. You can't blame injuries on 2014 and 2016.

Can't factor injuries into 2016...

Know how I know you didn't watch last season?

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1 hour ago, NJPanthers12 said:

What has Jerry Richardson done in two plus decades that gives you any hope he has the slightest idea he knows what he's doing?

There are some teams that have never made the Super Bowl, much less twice in 22 years

Some  teams that never sniffed a winning record in years with years to go before they do

but for some bad coaching in both Super Bowls. Jerry  might have had two SB wins

i do believe he tries to be a honorable man plus a business man and that is a slippery slope.

Hurney's return does not thrill me but I have to believe that as the owner and the writer of checks and knowing at his age the Lombardi may be out of reach, he would not have done this without reason.   the timing indicates a broken relationship  and nothing could mend it 

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1 hour ago, ladypanther said:

Nothing wrong with that opinion and concern. It is the anger, personal attacks, etc that I think need to calm down.  Thoughtful opinions are great here and I always have respected yours. One of my 1st thoughts after the shock settled in was that I wish you were here...and then...here you are!!

I am concerned too, but there is also a lot of unknown. Moving forward I am going to focus my passion on positive energy for the players and coaches and hope for the best. That is what I can control.

If we hire someone like Ryan Cowden, and he shows he's not a yes man, I'll feel a lot better. Trent Kirchner would be fine too.

If the "interim" tag gets removed from Hurney though, it'll be extremely hard to defend.

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1 hour ago, PhillyB said:

firing the best GM in team history at the height of our team's success a week before the most anticipated training camp in our team's history at the behest of an owner unqualified by his history to make those kinds of decisions is a catastrophic event in this team's history.

outrage is warranted.

Pretty much sums it up

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53 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

If we hire someone like Ryan Cowden, and he shows he's not a yes man, I'll feel a lot better. Trent Kirchner would be fine too.

If the "interim" tag gets removed from Hurney though, it'll be extremely hard to defend.

We keep saying "if" and they keep happening. We all know how hard it was for JR to fire Hurney when he completely wrecked this team. Deep down I wonder if Dave was not hired just to get us out of the hole. If Hurneys return was always in the plans for JR.  It really makes you wonder. 

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What exactly did Gettleman do besides clean up the cap (something that we could have hired Steve Forbes or Dave Ramsey to do)?

He inherited the two most important pieces on the roster in Cam and Luke and in addition to that, he was blasted by the majority of this fan base until this past year for not adding playmakers.

Take Cam, Luke, Olsen, TD, and a lot of the core players that were already on the roster away and DG may not have even made it this far.

In addition, take away the abnormal 17-2 year and the Panthers were a measly 26-24-1 (average) in Gettleman's time as a GM.

But hey, our fanbase gives credit to Gettleman for that 17-2 year but the other poor years (including the year we made the playoffs by default) all fall on Ron and the coaching staff.

This guy was placed on a pedestal because he knows how finances work.

He's clearly not a person that many players respect (I don't care what Michael Oher said, he may not have even had a job if DG wouldn't have taken a flyer on him; of course he's going to stick up for him) and some of his "business" decisions were very poorly handled regardless of right or wrong.

I see individuals use the excuse that DG's method works for the Patriots.... Well the Patriots also have the best player in NFL history leading their team, so they can afford to run a team like that and still be successful.

If people want to look at comparisons then let's look at the second most successful team in the past 15 years, the Steelers. Kevin Colbert runs a great organization and is one of the most respected GM's in the league by his peers and players. Spoiler: They have been run nothing like the Panthers have over the past few years.

There is not another team in the league that has had as many former players come out and blast their former organization.

There's a happy medium in finding a GM that is business oriented and also player friendly, DG wasn't that guy and the Panthers will be better off when they find a guy who has both of those characteristics.

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