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Sobering Cam Newton stat...


Jeremy Igo

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We need alot more quick throws and short throws , and much less designed runs . Run him on goal line and occasionally call runs for him , but mainly reduce his runs to scrambles when he feels the need to take off himself. More of the same is not going to be good for Cam's long term health no matter how you look at it. 

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The affect that has on the body  is the biggest story here.

The next guy has to be Russell Wilson. For comparison sake Newton has rushed 689 times in those 6 years. Wilson 483. That extra 206 attempts accounts for a large percentage of extra hits.  Yes, he hasn't had great protection but in comparison he's got 221 sacks to Wilson's 205....6 less per season.  Also Newton is not much for sliding. I'm just trying to look at these numbers to see what really drives them. 

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3 minutes ago, csx said:

The affect that has on the body  is the biggest story here.

The next guy has to be Russell Wilson. For comparison sake Newton has rushed 689 times in those 6 years. Wilson 483. That extra 206 attempts accounts for a large percentage of extra hits.  Yes, he hasn't had great protection but in comparison he's got 221 sacks to Wilson's 205....6 less per season.  Also Newton is not much for sliding. I'm just trying to look at these numbers to see what really drives them. 

Straight stats with no context never really tell the whole story.  Never have been a huge stats guy b/c there are so damn many unpredictable and uncontrollable variables at play in the NFL.  Stats are neat and all, but to really get a good understanding of anything, "deep dives" are necessary.  Which is why I can definitely appreciate you breaking down this stat to see what exactly is going on/driving the number.

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10 minutes ago, csx said:

The affect that has on the body  is the biggest story here.

The next guy has to be Russell Wilson. For comparison sake Newton has rushed 689 times in those 6 years. Wilson 483. That extra 206 attempts accounts for a large percentage of extra hits.  Yes, he hasn't had great protection but in comparison he's got 221 sacks to Wilson's 205....6 less per season.  Also Newton is not much for sliding. I'm just trying to look at these numbers to see what really drives them. 

I could be wrong, but I'm thinking that Luck is next.

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Scary, and not surprising.

Designed runs makes Cam one of the biggest mismatches in the NFL....and got us to a SB...without them, Cam is a good QB, but that little aspect of his game makes him great.

I do wish Cam would learn to go out of bounds, and slide, but that's not him...he's going to take a beating much like the two players I have long compared him to...Favre and Elway.

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Not surprised by this at all, considering Cam is by far the most prolific "running" quarterback of all time. Hell he has 48 rushing touchdowns in his career. Are they counting each time someone put their hands on him on a goal line rush?

Outside of teams going the Broncos route of intentionally gunning for his head, I'm not too concerned with Cam taking on contact. The major injuries I can remember in his pro career haven't come from his normal style of play. I think of him hurting his shoulder trying to make a tackle, an ankle injury that bugged him since college, nonchalantly walking into the endzone and taking a pop and cheap shots from Bronco players.

Of course as he gets older the nicks and dings could add up, but I don't see a radical change being all that necessary.

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5 minutes ago, top dawg said:

I could be wrong, but I'm thinking that Luck is next.

Could be. I was interested to see just how many more runs he had than another runner that's been around consistently for most of that time period.

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6 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

Scary, and not surprising.

Designed runs makes Cam one of the biggest mismatches in the NFL....and got us to a SB...without them, Cam is a good QB, but that little aspect of his game makes him great.

I do wish Cam would learn to go out of bounds, and slide, but that's not him...he's going to take a beating much like the two players I have long compared him to...Favre and Elway.

I don't worry about designed runs at all. Where Cam gets hurt the most is on passing plays.

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Just now, rainwater said:

I don't worry about designed runs at all. Where Cam gets hurt the most is on passing plays.

The hits are cumulative...they pile up on you, and make your job harder.  Cams arm will not stay where it is, Cams feet and legs won't continue to be as responsive as they are....if he keeps taking these hits.

Cam is the most important player on the Panthers, we have to protect him, and we have to protect him from himself.

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