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Play Discussion: 3rd and 6 ...

Jeremy Igo

By Jeremy Igo,
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the whole play design is poo.

the reason the defense knew what was coming is because newton is in the shotgun with an empty backfield and probably no outlet to his right. the time it takes for him to take the snap, look to his right, and set for his throw is more than enough time for the defense to read and react. this forces the blocking receivers to react instead of "sell" the play.

this play needs to be run with newton under center with a hb in the backfield. newton takes the snap, stands up and throws to his target. the ball is to the receiver before the defense can read the play...hell, throw in play action to the hb to freeze the defense and your off to the races.

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15 minutes ago, nosuchthingasapanther said:

the whole play design is poo.

the reason the defense knew what was coming is because newton is in the shotgun with an empty backfield and probably no outlet to his right. the time it takes for him to take the snap, look to his right, and set for his throw is more than enough time for the defense to read and react. this forces the blocking receivers to react instead of "sell" the play.

this play needs to be run with newton under center with a hb in the backfield. newton takes the snap, stands up and throws to his target. the ball is to the receiver before the defense can read the play...hell, throw in play action to the hb to freeze the defense and your off to the races.

This is what I was thinking. 

Look at the blockers. They are both set up for Samuel to be a couple of steps into his run, blocking the inside of the corners. Unfortunately, since the pass takes almost 3 seconds to get there, the corner can just take the outside angle and get to Samuel. 

Still, it also looks like AJ Klein would have shut it down short unless Samuel could make him miss. 

In short, the timing on this play is god awful. Scrap it. 

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The corner is obviously in man coverage and reacts really fast towards Samuel. Which tells us two thing:

The defense had prepared for this exact play

This is the only variant of it, every defender including the safety comes down real hard before the ball is out of Cam's hand, if it is faked and Shepard takes off on some route down the side line he should be wide open. So obviously, they know that it's not happening. 

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1 hour ago, Jeremy Igo said:

3rd and 6 failure that led to the second field goal being kicked. 

 

So much happening here. 

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I have thoughts. Wanting to know what the huddle collective thinks here, where the problem areas are. 

Shepard whiffed on his blocks ruined the play from the get go. CMC should have been motioned out which could have drawn the MLB towards him or would have been free for huge gain.

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14 minutes ago, sanjay_rajput said:

Shepard whiffed on his blocks ruined the play from the get go. CMC should have been motioned out which could have drawn the MLB toward him or would have been free for huge gain.

Look again, specifically how long Samuel has to wait for the ball. Both Funchess and Shepard are setting up for Samuel already to be running with it. 

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