Cam’s reckless deep passes actually help

[GoobyPls]

To keep a defense honest.

 

If anyone caught some of the redskins game you can see the cowboys defense had no fear of Cousins beating them deep. All he did was dink and dunk, played right into their game plan 

[Jeremy Igo]

Maybe so, 

 

But I would prefer he not make those on 3rd down when a check down is available to move the chains. 

[motocross_cat]

I dont mind taking a few shots.  

Samuel had one hit him in the hands.  

The 3rd one i believe to funch was actually a good read because 17 had a step on his man, cam just over threw him.  Would however like to see less of them on third and "manageable"

[therealmjl]

The first one to Funchess was a poor decision. 

I am okay with the other two, Samuel had a good chance to catch his and Funchess had a step on his man. 

Cam was showing off the arm strength yesterday. 

[GoobyPls]

21 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Maybe so, 

 

But I would prefer he not make those on 3rd down when a check down is available to move the chains. 

Taking those checkdowns on 3rd and long would increase his comp% by a nice margin 

[EricBerry]

I'm willing to bet the deep shots are the primary reads

[Dunn]

Im perfectly fine with the deep passes on 1st and 2nd...3rd down is to keep a drive alive.  Not go for the homerun ball, especially when we are behind the 20 yard line, flips the field so easily for the opposing team.

[Peppers90 NC]

yes throwing deep in double coverage on 3rd down is reckless.

[juliosantos]

if we had a fast wr it would work wonders

[rayzor]

this team still acts like it's a big play offense based around a power run game and a gunslinger throwing long bombs downfield. aside from cam, we really don't have the personnel for it.

i think shula and cam both are kind of stuck in that mentality, even though they both know we should just be doing whatever we can to move the chains.

work with what/who you've got and what is working right now instead of doing the same thing you used to do and wishing you had the right guys to pull it off.

i just get tired of so many people saying, "well, if we had someone who could do yada yada then we'd be in good shape and things would work better." well, we don't have someone who can do yada yada. we've got the guys we've got and we've got a lot of things that we do with these guys that work well. focus on what we do well instead of trying to do those things we don't do so well. i just don't know why that's such a hard concept to adopt.

[Peppers90 NC]

2 hours ago, juliosantos said:

if we had a fast wr it would work wonders

Clay, Samuel, Shephard, CMC? Or do you mean big AND fast like Calvin Johnson?

[hepcat]

The lack of a deep threat is one of the main reasons the running game is struggling. In theory, you might be right about this. But I'm not sure it's going to change much since the Panthers don't have anyone that can beat a defense deep. Maybe they brought back Kaelin Clay to try him out as a deep threat...

[Khyber53]

Yeah, the deep passes do help. Tons. It keeps a defense honest and pays off with a high reward for the high risk. That's how our offense works and has worked.

Air Coryell teams work like that, and have since the 70s. The power run game is supposed to set up the long ball by bringing in the safeties. It doesn't have to have the fastest receivers in the world, but it does need receivers with the ability to go up and get the ball, either by great hands or jumping ability or just straight up tenacity (like ol' Agent89 was famous for). 

In this day of Madden and fantasy football, what gets forgotten is that those passes don't work most of the time. The longer the distance, the less likely they are to hit -- inaccuracy of the pass or the route run, wind, and of course the defenders. But when it hits -- whammm!!!! The giant chunk of yardage pushes the defense and gets them rocking back on their heels. Then wham, wham, wham with running plays to push it across the goal line. Or in our case, once you are in the red zone, it is a pick your poison -- options, running plays, a fantastically mobile QB, tight ends skilled at going across the middle and towering WRs who can go up for a ball like power forwards crashing the boards.

But there are going to be misses downfield. That's part of the game. Drives stall because of them and they sputter out. Luckily we have a great defense, which is necessary for this style of play. 

Yesterday's game wasn't perfect, but it sure was a step in the right direction. The most important one was that Cam looked more like Superman than Clark Kent and that changes the whole game. The threat of Cam tucking the ball and skating through the defense changes the whole perspective of how a defense can react. That threat means more to the success of our version of Air Coryell than a single speedster receiver ever will. Ted Ginn was important in 2015, but Cam roaming at will through the first and second levels of a defense was even more important.

Give it time, and you'll even see the power running game come back to life.

But poo, it was a victory, enjoy it a little bit. Would it kill ya?

[Peppers90 NC]

Beating a team deep has much less to do with straight line speed than the collective huddle genius will want to believe. There are double-moves, looking off safeties, route combinations, play-action all can help facilitate. They have to work every once in a while for teams to respect it, and it hasnt yet. In the past, Funchess has beaten his guy deep numerous times and even connected when thrown to, unlike yesterday where there was safety help over the top.