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Saints clearly the best team in the NFCS, and it's not close

Jeremy Igo

By Jeremy Igo,
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39 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

If the opposing defense can stop it, why should the OC change it up? Simply for the sake of changing it up? Keeping the defense on it's heals? 

If the running game is getting over 5 yards a clip, you keep pounding that ball and force the defense to stop it. That IS great play calling.

I’m not saying they should’ve changed it up...simply that this win was more a result of execution and domination in the trenches than playcalling. If you want to tout 9 straight runs up the gut as brilliant playcalling then go for it, but the only reason that will EVER work in a professional football game is because of sheer dominance and overpowering in execution.

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6 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

I’m not saying they should’ve changed it up...simply that this win was more a result of execution and domination in the trenches than playcalling. If you want to tout 9 straight runs up the gut as brilliant playcalling then go for it, but the only reason that will EVER work in a professional football game is because of sheer dominance and overpowering in execution.

yeah, I mean you give Shula the Cowboy OL.....and his run plays instantly have better outcomes. 

Saints have a very underrated OL.  Well, maybe not so much anymore....but the Saints run game is working now and it ain't the RBs or playcalling being the difference. 

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6 hours ago, Chairman Wow said:

 

Brees posted a 104+ NFL passer rate in his 3rd season in San Diego. That is WAY better than Cam Newton has ever posted.

Brees without Payton is not Andy Dalton

BUT as a passer Cam Newton IS Andy Dalton, just not quite as good:

Dalton career NFL passer rating: 88.9

Dalton career passing TD's: 153

Dalton career passing yards: 23953

Newton career passer rating: 85.4

Newton career passing TD's: 146

Newton career passing yards: 23750

And by the way in Newton's magic 2015 MVP season he posted a passer rating of 99.4 (his best ever by far).

Dalton posted a 106.2 the same season...

 

 

Spoken like someone who has only played fantasy and video games but never real football,..

how many MVP conversations has Andy Had?

how many playoff games has Andy won?

how many games has Andy faltered and lost under pressure?

Cam does it with less, wills his team to win when the team isn't that good. Where is Cams AJ Green?

Andy can't hold Cams jock strap let alone be in the same conversation. 

People are too fixated on fake football and the wrong types of stats rather than how football really works.

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2 hours ago, JARROD said:

Spoken like someone who has only played fantasy and video games but never real football,..

how many MVP conversations has Andy Had?

how many playoff games has Andy won?

how many games has Andy faltered and lost under pressure?

Cam does it with less, wills his team to win when the team isn't that good. Where is Cams AJ Green?

Andy can't hold Cams jock strap let alone be in the same conversation. 

People are too fixated on fake football and the wrong types of stats rather than how football really works.

Thank you. That really needed to be said for all these people that just look at the stats and don't actually watch the games or dive into the differences between teams and organizations. 

I don't think the Bengals have won a single playoff game the whole time Dalton's been at QB and Cam's been to the Super Bowl and gone to the playoffs 3 different times without any semblance of a #1 WR or a good oline for most of that time.  

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38 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

I’m not saying they should’ve changed it up...simply that this win was more a result of execution and domination in the trenches than playcalling. If you want to tout 9 straight runs up the gut as brilliant playcalling then go for it, but the only reason that will EVER work in a professional football game is because of sheer dominance and overpowering in execution.

That win was a direct result of the players executing the game plan. 

It never ceases to amaze me how many fans give players a complete pass when it comes to their mistakes and failure to execute, so misplaced hate and critical thinking goes to the coaches.  These are way over payed athletes, that their job is to go out and execute what the coaches teach and implement.  

When an offense is getting over 5 yards a carry, you pound that ball down the throats of the defense that is struggling, and on their heals. Wearing that defense out, keeping the opposing offense off the field, and demoralizing the other team. 

That is great play calling, because it wins games.

 

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9 hours ago, Chairman Wow said:

 

Brees posted a 104+ NFL passer rate in his 3rd season in San Diego. That is WAY better than Cam Newton has ever posted.

Brees without Payton is not Andy Dalton

BUT as a passer Cam Newton IS Andy Dalton, just not quite as good:

Dalton career NFL passer rating: 88.9

Dalton career passing TD's: 153

Dalton career passing yards: 23953

Newton career passer rating: 85.4

Newton career passing TD's: 146

Newton career passing yards: 23750

And by the way in Newton's magic 2015 MVP season he posted a passer rating of 99.4 (his best ever by far).

Dalton posted a 106.2 the same season...

 

 

That's cute, passer rating

That passer rating didn't stop the chargers from benching him and drafting Rivers 

 

Yep Dalton sure racks up those empty stats, like Brees did for the past 4 years, easy to do when you play with all world talent 

 

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Yeah, I've found myself over the last week reevaluating my stance on our early results.  I thought both the Saints and the Eagles losses were devastatingly bad losses for different reasons when they happened.  Now that we're a few weeks removed from both, they were actually respectable losses against probably the only twp teams that will challenge us for the NFC Championship.

Now, moving forward, I'm hoping that the subtraction of KB will lead to more of what we saw last week - space for the running game, specifically for CMC.  We're gonna need that run game if we are to take the NFC crown and beat the Eagles and Saints when we see them again.

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