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Kelvin Benjamin We Hardly Knew Ya

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davos Grand Master

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Just now, Cracka McNasty said:

I hate the dude as a GM as much as the next guy, but He's done MANY good things for the team.

They were just very few and far between after the year 2011

Yep.  Against him but not a blind hater. We need a new GM.  

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Just now, smash_n_dash said:

Hurney was bad starting in 2008 by trading up picks and resigned the worst QB in the league at the time, Delhomme

trading up for otah was not the problem

he resigned delhomme in 2009, couldn't trade or lock up peppers, and traded up for zod favorite everette brown

THAT was the beginning of the end.

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15 minutes ago, Cracka McNasty said:

I hate the dude as a GM as much as the next guy, but He's done MANY good things for the team.

They were just very few and far between after the year 2011

That 2011 draft by him was so bad.  At least we got Cam, but everything after that was trash.

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he can NOT be our gm next season... he can chill till then.

 

If we really were dead set on not signing him back the next year than it makes sense.

 

But what happens when Samuel and Funchess are both injured?

 

We have no depth right now thats a fact. Shepard is even a poorer mans Ted Ginn. 

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