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Starting to make some plays and showing up on game day. He is improving slowly but surely. Maybe not the bust that some have claimed. Give him some time and keep him healthy and they may make a decent player out of him afterall.

 

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9 minutes ago, Jmac said:

Starting to make some plays and showing up on game day. He is improving slowly but surely. Maybe not the bust that some have claimed. Give him some time and keep him healthy and they may make a decent player out of him afterall.

 

More than anything I think we'd rather have HH still....Olsen + him would make the offense hard to stop and give another big target....our defense other than the S play has been fine in most of the games. I don't think most people actually had a problem with him as much as it's a luxury pick to take a 1st round flat out backup on this team.

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29 minutes ago, SOJA said:

He's also a monster on FGs. He's always in the area of getting a block. Mark my words guy is going to come up with a huge block later this year. 

Yeah, he's a natural at it. I believe he already has two in the limited time he has played. Probably would have had one yesterday if the kick wasn't shanked. 

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1 hour ago, Jmac said:

Starting to make some plays and showing up on game day. He is improving slowly but surely. Maybe not the bust that some have claimed. Give him some time and keep him healthy and they may make a decent player out of him afterall.

 

I can't disagree.  Hopefully he will continue to improve.

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44 minutes ago, SOJA said:

He's also a monster on FGs. He's always in the area of getting a block. Mark my words guy is going to come up with a huge block later this year. 

He definitely effected the Vikings kicker yesterday. I'm pretty sure he got his hands on the ball but there were no good camera angles to show it. 

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1 minute ago, stbugs said:

He didn’t on one angle. He would have though, but it was hooked so bad it went to the left of his hand in that short of a distance. Absolutely was not getting there even if straight. 

I disagree every angle was fuged so you can't say for sure. 

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6 minutes ago, stbugs said:

They were but I recall one from the right side they showed really quick and didn’t replay it. You could see it hook left of his hand. I remember because I was interested to see if he got it since I actually like Butler. He signed some balls for my kids in his rookie training camp. Big man. 

Maybe when the all 22 comes out it will show exactly what happened. 

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22 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Another big target? Like KB?

Anyway, I think we have to remember that Butler was almost out for the year in preseason. I’m glad we have him because we have a 4 man DT rotation that no one else in the playoffs has and they will be pretty fresh. Look at what Short did in the second half. I felt like I saw Butler and Love on running downs and then Star and Short on passing downs. That’s not a luxury IMHO, that’s an advantage.

I don’t think Henry is enough of a difference over Dickson (no one guessed Olsen would be hurt so long this year) that I’d rather not have the best all game (not just starting) DL in the playoffs. Pressure is how we beat Minnesota and it’s how a team like the Giants beat a juggernaut.  

Henry is light years ahead of Dickson in blocking and contributing to his offense. TEs are usually big.  Henry should have been the pick!  Butler was a luxury pick pure and simple, and our rotation would have survived successfully without him. 

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2 hours ago, Jmac said:

Starting to make some plays and showing up on game day. He is improving slowly but surely. Maybe not the bust that some have claimed. Give him some time and keep him healthy and they may make a decent player out of him afterall.

 

He's a damned solid DT with even more potential for future improvement, much to the chagrine of the haters.

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2 hours ago, Fox007 said:

More than anything I think we'd rather have HH still....Olsen + him would make the offense hard to stop and give another big target....our defense other than the S play has been fine in most of the games. I don't think most people actually had a problem with him as much as it's a luxury pick to take a 1st round flat out backup on this team.

Maybe we can get Mark Andrews from OU in the first round next year.  

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