Are the Panthers Underachievers

[Mr. Scot]

Credit to @Manther for this article linked in the "Fire Shula" thread

Have the Panthers underachieved in the Cam Newton / Ron Rivera era?

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At some point before the start of the 2018 season, a new owner or ownership group will likely purchase the Carolina Panthers from disgraced owner Jerry Richardson. And while, like everything else in sports now, it will be a calculated and cold business decision based on future profits, there will be someone forking over millions (possibly billions) of dollars who will ask a simple question.

What type of team am I buying, anyway?

 

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They’ve had stretches where they were unbeatable, and stretches where they are so confounding offensively that it’s hard to believe they’ve had the same coordinator since 2013.

A new owner might wonder: Have the Panthers underachieved during the Rivera/Newton era or is this just another good football team being muted amid the Patriot dynasty?

 

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If I were a prospective owner of the Carolina Panthers, that would be the side of the argument keeping me up at night. Whether it be scheme, personnel or a combination of the two, something has failed the Panthers during Newton’s tenure. He’ll enter next season at 29 years old—dicey territory for a player that is so prolific as a power runner as well as a passer. Did we all just expect too much out of Newton, or were some of his best years squandered trying to figure the whole thing out? 

[Fox007]

"Something has failed the Panthers during Newtons' tenure"

No it's not something we all know what that "something" is so wtf you talking about. It's not a fugin secret and the damn article says it without saying it...dunno why they didn't just fugin  say it. Its Shula and then Rivera for keeping Shula.

How can we be underachievers when we were underdogs in almost every situation in all our playoffs. How can we be underachievers when no one picked us to win and now after the game people actually feel sorry for Cam and are talking about how he needs help on every single show?

GTFO it's always been Cam carrying a poo stain franchise and now a poo stain franchise with an egg on it's face because of the owner.

[Panthercougar68]

My buddy who went to South Carolina texted me last night “the Panthers are the Gamecocks”

 

a team that can beat anyone one week and lose to the school of the blind next...

 

I would say inconsistent more than underachieving. 

[SmokinwithWilly]

Players have overachieved, coaches have underachieved. You can question his taste in clothes, be infuriated when he sails a pass high, even cringe when he takes a hit, but you can't ever question Cam's passion for the game. Ron needs to take off his blinders and get him some help, or we will waste the best QB this franchise will likely ever see. 

[electro's horse]

1 minute ago, Panthercougar68 said:

My buddy who went to South Carolina texted me last night “the Panthers are the Gamecocks”

 

a team that can beat anyone one week and lose to the school of the blind next...

 

I would say inconsistent more than underachieving. 

lol they're way more successful than the gamecocks

good lord usc fans are delusional

[TN05]

We've achieved about as much as you'd expect a good team to achieve. Normally making the playoffs and occasionally making a deep playoff run.

The Steelers are maybe the best comparison over this decade. We've been in about as many playoffs (6 for the Steelers, 4 for us) and been to as many Super Bowls (one loss). We're unfortunately, like them, almost always overshadowed by a marginally better team.

[Snake]

It's hard to separate the man from the business. JR meddling caused some terrible decisions to be made. I think a two year contract is correct for Rivera and Shula. With JR gone and a GM allowed to be a GM there should be no excuses. 

[Jon Snow]

Yes of course they are.  I watched the games.  There is more than enough talented players on this team to succeed.  The philosophy and scheme stinks beyond measure. 

[TheCasillas]

Gamecocks are idiots. They just want to be relevant at something. The whole school is a joke.

[FugAllY'all]

I mean, we should have won the Super Bowl in 2015, there's no denying that. Against a broken down QB who played like it, that was massive blown opportunity that we're unlikely to ever get again. Outside of that though, no, not really. Our 2013-2017 is among the best run of success in the entire league. 

[*FreeFua*]

Of course they are.

Any franchise that is given the gift of Cam Newton that can’t properly build around him to win a SB should be considered “underachievers”

[Fox007]

Peyton Mannings career in Indy is under achieving. All time great regular season QB only winning 1 ring.

GB Packers with Aaron Rodgers another all time great only 1 ring is under acheiving.

Andy Reids Eagles teams and now KC teams are the definition of under achieving.

Cam carrying this scrub squad can never even be considered that.

[Huffgolf30]

4 playoffs and a super bowl appearance in 5 years isn't bad. If we can grab a SB before Cam's run is over, I will be thoroughly happy. People forget how bad things were before Cam arrived. I just hope whoever buys the franchise is not afraid to spend some money on free agents. 

[Manther]

Scheme creates  open receivers,  time for the quarterback, and and overall prolific offense.  Shulas thought process appears to be, "this play is so stupid, they'll never expect it so it will work."  He needs to stop doing that.