Quarterbacks active in 2017 with a higher career passer rating than Cam

[Lumps]

9 hours ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Give Cam some top notch receivers and that Career Passer Rating goes up.  I would like to see drop rates of all of these QBs.  I would be willing to bet Cam is near the top of WR drop rate.

Why would a ‘Top 5’ QB need ‘top notch’ receivers to succeed?

[Mr. Scot]

Side Note: The Eagles are currently being quarterbacked by Napoleon Dynamite.

Gosh!

[Peppers90 NC]

3 hours ago, Johnny Rockets said:

Last year the Panthers had the 5th fewest drops in the league with 16. The only time they were in the top 10 in total drops oddly enough was 2015. Take that for whatever it's worth, no idea what parameters were used. 

another huddle fallacy/misconception that only Pathers receivers have drops and that affects only their QBs completion percentage. you can definitely make a point for overall quality of receivers but thats fairly obvious.

[Peppers90 NC]

1 hour ago, Lumps said:

Why would a ‘Top 5’ QB need ‘top notch’ receivers to succeed?

the huddle quandary. 

[KillerKat]

So the point is Cam Newton sucks and we should trade him to the Redskins for Kirk Cousins ami right huddle?

[Verge]

I've always seen Cam as a John Elway or Steve McNair type of passer. Their passer ratings were never that great either, but they were their own offense, and won a ton of games. 

[poorboysrev]

I'd like to know what Cam's passer rating is when he's finally allowed to play uptempo/nohuddle instead of 1970s football. Of course we only run it when we're down 10- 14 points in the 4th quarter. Go watch Favre's games in Minnesota when Childress was trying to make him a game manager and hand the ball to AP and see how he looked until they'd take the leash off at the end when they were down and pray he could pull it out...very similar to Cam. He plays best when he's allowed to play fast and aggressive. I don't get why that's hard for the coaches to get. Cam balled out vs New Orleans our receivers let us and him down...I don't get how anyone that looks at Cam as the major problem with our team. He's not perfect...but he's asked to carry the whole offense more than any QB in the league. Norv even said his take was the best way to help Cam improve was to get everyone else playing higher up to his level. 

[AceBoogie]

On 1/26/2018 at 7:03 AM, joemac said:

If that was the case, wouldn't Sam Bradford be rated higher? He did set the NFL record for highest completion percentage.

Hence the 99.3 Rating that year 

[Snake]

Now how many of them had Shula as there OC? 

[Borat]

Cam isn't a good passer, but he's a very good QB. Unorthodox sure, but you can't really argue with the output. 

[JARROD]

On 1/26/2018 at 11:07 AM, TheWiz said:

Of that list.... I only see 7 or 8 legitimate Hall of Fame Quarterbacks. And of those Hall of Fame QB's, Cam is not the worst.

Numbers don't lie, but people do lie about numbers. 

That’s my line,..

[Khyber53]

Yeah, QBR and evaluating Cam just doesn't really tell the whole tale of the tape. And you can't really compare him against Vick and Cunningham as a mobile QB because both, in effect, played in completely different leagues with different types of athletes (yeah, Vick's heyday was 2001 to 2006... things have changed a lot since then).

In the end, all that really matters is wins vs. losses. Cam rates pretty highly there for his career. We're darned lucky to have him and hopefully the new OC can bring him up to a new level. Basically, he has every tool you could want from a QB except reliable consistency in the passing game. If they can coach out those two to three games a year where he's just throwing wild, he'll be remembered as one of the greats of this era.

If not, then down the road he'll be lumped in with the "mobile" QBs, which is a cool subset, but not a subset that is usually thought of as great.

 

[Cartel de Carolina]

^^ QBR factors rushing yards and td's.....

[Cartel de Carolina]

5 hours ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

espn's qbr owns because it ranks david garrard's 2007 season as the 6th greatest season of all time and cam newton's mvp season 133rd of all time.

my favorite thing about qbr is that espn quietly reworked the formula after getting made fun of bc according to qbr charlie batch had the single greatest game of all time (12/17, 186 yards, 3 tds and 2 interceptions).

Garrad had a good year per stats. 65% completion. 18 tds 3 int 2,500 yards. Over 100 QR rating that year. 

I like QBR overall. Usually the top guys had good years / stats and the bottom had trash years / stats. 

Wintz, Keenum, Brady at the top this year.