Trigger for Hiring Norv

[CPcavedweller]

What do you all believe the trigger point to firing Shula and bringing in Norv was? Everyone knows that Shula's philosophy is fairly similar to Turner's, so what is the motivation?

Three of the Panthers six losses last season came at the behest of the Saints. Many speculated if AJ Klein and Ted Ginn played a role in that because not only did they know our offense and defense, inside and out, but they knew the nuances and the tendencies of individuals on either side of the ball. Based on the Panthers game against the Eagles and Patriots last season, it could be argued that had the match-up's with the Saints not gone so poorly, the Panthers would've been in a position to reach the Super Bowl again.

Due to the familiarity of Ginn and Klein, the departure of Kurt Coleman to the Saints, and the general longevity of Shula in Carolina, was he fired due to his seeming ineptitude in adapting, or was he fired simply a result of inter-division transfers of players? 

[Moo Daeng]

I don't think they needed Klein or Ginn to figure us out. They are a division rival who has scouted and seen us twice a year forever.

[Pup McBarky]

Norv had been out of coaching for a year. Rivera called him up and said, "Hey, if I fire Shula, will you come run our offense?" Norv took a few days, called back, and said, "Sure."

Pure speculation on my part, but I wouldn't doubt it went something like that.

And it wouldn't surprise me to learn Rivera called Norv the year before but Norv told him he wanted to take some time off.

[Cuttinedge]

I can’t stand that weasel Sean Peyton but he’s a offensive genius 

 I believe he looked at Shulas offense the last few years and it took one film session to know our whole offensive  playbook from front cover to the back.   He didn’t need ginn or Klein’s help 

[Saca312]

Well, considering Norv’s history with Rivera, I think more or less this was a plannned event if we were anything less than an NFC Championship.

After Norv was released, I think judging from Rivera’s past comments and such he’d do as much as he could to bring him in.

[panther4life]

15 hours ago, Pup McBarky said:

Norv had been out of coaching for a year. Rivera called him up and said, "Hey, if I fire Shula, will you come run our offense?" Norv took a few days, called back, and said, "Sure."

Pure speculation on my part, but I wouldn't doubt it went something like that.

And it wouldn't surprise me to learn Rivera called Norv the year before but Norv told him he wanted to take some time off.

No evidence myself but fully believe it went down something like that as well 

[JARROD]

Having the same playbook and philosophy does not mean having the same tactical awareness,....

Norv has the tactical awareness to make in game adjustments, and call the right play cluster for the right situations,..

Shula had the know how to make a game into a Charlie Foxtrot,....

[JawnyBlaze]

They finally accepted what a moron Shula is, so Rivera called up his buddy who happens to be a veteran, well accomplished playcaller. Simple and plain. 

[Ace_Aladdin]

To turn the offense into more of a Pro-Style. 

 

[Moo Daeng]

I don't think it's a coincidence that this happened after Gettleman was let go. 

[gmonjimbo]

I think Rivera mentioned the flow of the offense and too many instances of settling for FGs. 

The offense had a glaring tendency of going through "lull" periods where they weren't able to get first downs or string two or three good drives together. That's why besides the Dolphins games, almost every team we played had a chance to mount a comeback because the offense was stagnant. 

Finally, we had issues cashing it in once we reached the red zone. This was very apparent against the Saints for all 3 matchups. I remember in the playoff game, by the 2nd quarter we had 3 trips inside the red zone but only 6 points to show for it. 

I think these two tendencies led to the breaking point. 

[chknwing]

because Cam gave the finger to most of the plays Shula called in and ran his own poo.

[The Natural]

40 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

I don't think it's a coincidence that this happened after Gettleman was let go. 

It wasn't.... There's a reason Gettleman worked so hard to get Shula up in New York.

[Panthera onca]

"Mr." thought Shula was Don Shula and kept him around.