Why do you still support Ron?

[uncfan888]

12 minutes ago, JoePanther said:

No criticism of Luke and that slow defense? Cam had 350 yards for only 3 TDs? That's not on the coach. Players had a bad day. Maybe you want Dan Quinn as coach? or Dirk kutter? Or Matt Patricia?

Give it up

[raz]

i've never seen a coach pull out his 'i'm becky, and i need to speak to the manager' voice until ron's post game presser.  he went straight valley girl for a moment.   he has to go.    plus, after the adt commercial or whatever that is, i think he and his wife may be furries.

[OceanPanther]

16 hours ago, NJPanthers12 said:

Because this is one of the dumbest fan bases in sports. Blindly supported Jerry Richardson for years. Tore apart the best player in franchise history (Julius Peppers) for years. Still have fans who are anti Cam. Blindly support this incompetent, garbage coach. 

 

I realize that some consider this a  unintelligent fan base..  I must me one of them....   FOR I HAVE NO IDEA HOW "BLINDLY SUPPORTED JERRY RICHARDSON FOR YEARS "  has anything to do with what he did or didn't do..    (  see Jerry Jones as another example,,  fans have NO CONTROL  )

Please explain what fan base has control over any owner  ??    Then explain how the Panther fans supported or didn't support Richardson ..  and how either of those choice would have made a difference to Richardson and or this franchise.. He could have cared less what we as fans thought,, or did or anything.

 

[Silent Majority]

3 hours ago, Verge said:

If Cam makes an accurate pass on that 2 point conversion, none of these threads exist. 

If the coaching staff had a clue, wouldn't have been down on the road and once again putting it all on your hurt QB to make up for your shitty defense and gameplan.

[raz]

btw, i was so upset we were going for 2.  it was stupid.  the thread still would have existed and i'd still be mad even if we got it.  it was stupid.  odds of winning went down just for attempting the 2.    that is stupid

[Pimpdaddy]

46 minutes ago, raz said:

btw, i was so upset we were going for 2.  it was stupid.  the thread still would have existed and i'd still be mad even if we got it.  it was stupid.  odds of winning went down just for attempting the 2.    that is stupid

...we managed to turn a 'gimee' 2 points int sht...we have the opposite effect of the Midas touch...

[raz]

then riva-beast throws the kicker and qb under the bus, uses a 'becky' voice, and doesn't mention missing the challenge when their receiver stepped out.  that's not accountability.   i think that's why cam said every one of the players believes in him, which he shouldn't have to do.   they don't believe in ron.    you think the players don't know how bad he screws stuff up?

[TheRed]

Look let's just be realistic.

Going for 2 in that situation is a very low percentage play. It doesn't really matter who the QB is in that situation. There are so many variables in that moment. Most times you really just have to get lucky. But what is indisputable is that it was a gamble with significantly more chance of backfiring than being successful. And that's even with Cam Newton behind center.

What makes no sense is suddenly risking all your chips going for 2 there after punting on fourth and short the previous offensive drive before our final touchdown. What if we had went for it on fourth and converted and scored on the previous drive as well? We wouldn't have been in that situation of risking losing the game by 1 point.

This boils down to a distinct lack of situational awareness by Rivera. We certainly haven't seen that before have we?

[rhyslloyd]

7 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

Okay, can I call you out to explain each time we win? 

Ron didn't drop the passes. Ron didn't hit the upright with a kick or miss an extra point. Ron didn't whiff on about 30 tackles. Ron didn't stand there at the four yard line looking desperately to pass the ball when he could have just run it in for the 2 pointer.

Ron is, however, the guy who was at the helm when all the wheels fell off. Ron was the guy in charge when the defense got all soft and gushy for two weeks in a row.

There, ya happy now?

 

If it's directly attributable to Ron and his expert coaching, sure, but I won't be holding my breath.  Team showed up completely unprepared and looking hungover.  Ron had 10 days to put a game plan together, correct mistakes and get this team mentally ready to play against a severely depleted Lions team.  He failed on all accounts.  

[rhyslloyd]

20 minutes ago, raz said:

then riva-beast throws the kicker and qb under the bus, uses a 'becky' voice, and doesn't mention missing the challenge when their receiver stepped out.  that's not accountability.   i think that's why cam said every one of the players believes in him, which he shouldn't have to do.   they don't believe in ron.    you think the players don't know how bad he screws stuff up?

Bingo.  Ron has never been held accountable for his shitty coaching, and he certainly isn't about to hold himself accountable.  Deflection, deflection, deflection. 

[trueblade]

18 hours ago, Gladniator1 said:

previous season(s) standings

70–50–1 (.583)

18 hours ago, Shaqil915 said:

thinking we’ll be a bad again without Rivera. 

Prior to Sunday, these were the main two reasons I supported RR.

After Sunday, I'm more in this camp:

18 hours ago, Shaqil915 said:

We haven’t seen Cam and Rivera apart yet, but at this point I’m willing to gamble Cam has been a bigger factor to our success then Rivera.

 

[Khyber53]

1 hour ago, rhyslloyd said:

If it's directly attributable to Ron and his expert coaching, sure, but I won't be holding my breath.  Team showed up completely unprepared and looking hungover.  Ron had 10 days to put a game plan together, correct mistakes and get this team mentally ready to play against a severely depleted Lions team.  He failed on all accounts.  

Can't argue with you much here, this game and the last made a statement. It's not just the coach, though, although he is where the buck stops. Last Thursday and yesterday the team just looked soft. The drip kings looked like a bunch of drips.

And yeah, I think it is a coach that isn't holding his players and coaches (defensive coordinator most particular) accountable. The team over the last two games looked like the one that showed up in the Superb Owl versus Denver -- dressed to the nines, feeling their oats and completely ready for an old school butt whipping by teams that wanted it more than they did. And the onfield problems go from Cam at the top down to Colin Jones and the special teams units at the bottom. It was a failure across all levels. If Pittsburgh was a head on collision, yesterday was someone looking at the wreck and saying, look it buffed right out, it's fine.

Luke and company couldn't tackle. Pep looked his age. Action Jackson was almost put out of action. Funchess got the worst case of butterfingers I have ever seen. CMC did what he could. Olsen looked like Norv forgot he was there. And Cam, at the four yard line stood there with an open lane to the goal and the win and just kept standing there until he overthrew Wright in the endzone. Gano, who has been outstanding this season, just clanked and shanked his way to his worst game ever.

Against frikkin' Detroit, a team in near revolt against their coach for making them practice in the snow. We literally got beat by a bunch of players called out for being wusses. 

So yeah, Ron's got a lot of explaining to do. There's a sh!t-ton of disappointment that has built up over the last two games.

[Zaximus]

Let's not forget about not challenging the catch on the sideline where the Lions player was out?

Just another thing he still hasn't grasped in the league.

[rico6]

1 minute ago, Zaximus said:

Let's not forget about not challenging the catch on the sideline where the Lions player was out?

Just another thing he still hasn't grasped in the league.

Hey man, he was a COTY almost 4 years ago. Things like clock management and challenges aren’t really that important in coaching.