Newton suffering from lingering pain and soreness

[Mr. Scot]

Won't lie. This story kinda pisses me off.

[NAS]

I think it's ironic that Jordan Rodrigue is the one standing up for Cam in the media by publishing these types of stories and asking the tough questions.  She's the best Panthers beat reporter.  

[t96]

6 minutes ago, NAS said:

Yeah and Luck may not have the pain, but he's throwing wounded ducks out there.  

Luck's been amazing this year

[RumHam]

All I know is since that Detroit game specifically, they have him running less. There's no deep throws and we all started questioning his shoulder in week four b/c the lack of deep throws goes back to last year. This basically makes this a rhythm college offense. He's not a threat to throw deep and this team continues to get more and more exposed. You don't come back from this. Not sure how Luck was able to overcome that as his arm still seems good. I honestly put only one INT from last week on him. Two he released, the line just got pushed into him as he was releasing. The other was the tip. We need someone to come in and retool his mechanics honestly, that's why i mentioned Wisenhunt. Sounds like a ticking time bomb.

[!stUp]

19 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'd honestly love for the Panthers to get Will Grier. Besides being a great quarterback, he's a Charlotte kid, grew up a Panthers fan and having him sit behind Newton (basically be Aaron Rodgers to Newton's Brett Favre) could make for a bright future.

That ain't happenin', though.

2020 draft....Will give him one season watching, learning....

Trevor Lawrence

[SpeedOFLight]

Wow just wow. Whatever happened with doing what’s best for your players? If he was hurt in 2016 and it was known, and they still trotted him out there as the norm, I really lose respect for this staff. You actually took a risk and jeopardize your future. I’m hoping that they didn’t know about it until the end of the season. I’m afraid the next couple of weeks, opposing players will now try to tee off on him any chance they get. I’m not sure if I will trot him out there. Now if the doctors say he is good to play then so be it but otherwise shut him down. I’ve had patellar tendon repair surgery done and that soreness sticks around but hopefully in Cams case there isn’t any more damage

[Anybodyhome]

I was a child-prodigy pitcher with a high 80's fastball when I was 16 and kept that velocity well into my 30's. I've had a partially torn rotator for many years now and throwing a football is a little different that a baseball, but I can tell you the mechanics are nearly impossible to change as something you've been doing for a helluva long time.

I don't need that much of my shoulder to make a living and I'm almost 63, so it's not like I need that fastball anymore. I'm not having surgery, but I've learned to live with the pain and I've also learned the hard way that my right shoulder has but a fraction of the push & throw strength it used to have. I can pull weights all day long, but any type of press is very difficult.

Let's be honest, if Cam needs a rotator cuff surgery (the whole thing), he's looking at 9-12 months of recovery time.

[PanthersBigD]

Is he injured or is he just hurt? I'll admit I have no real clue like the rest of you with regards to what's wrong with Cam's shoulder. Do you think it's injured again and they're lying about it, or could it possibly be that it's legitimately just lingering pain from a longer than expected recovery? I had shoulder repair surgery almost a year ago, and I still have residual pain if I overwork it, and I've taken my recovery really slow. Cam is helming an NFL offense against defenders that actively want to take his head off.

I'm ready for the Riv-era to come to a close too, but I don't know that he's doing anything devious with regards to Cam's shoulder. If you think that Tepper would allow Rivera to run his franchise QB into the ground to save his job, you're deluding yourselves. Sometimes a sore shoulder is just a sore shoulder.

[Anybodyhome]

1 minute ago, PanthersBigD said:

If you think that Tepper would allow Rivera to run his franchise QB into the ground to save his job, you're deluding yourselves.

Yeah. A lot of the speculation in this thread is also lacking one thing: Cam's decision. At some point, Cam needs to step up and say, "Coach, I can't go today," regardless of what anyone else thinks or says.

[Snake]

This isn't actually as bad as it sounds. It takes years to break down scar tissue in some people. His shoulder is solid he's just battling the after effects of the surgery. With that said I actually hope we lose to the Browns and Rivera gets fired so Cam can be shut down. No need to inflame a shoulder chasing fools gold. 

[Jmac]

As I said in a previous post, he should be evaluated and if it needs surgery then IR...do it now. Ron will play him this Sunday regardless of his injury. 

Playing with fire on this one. Cam doesn't want to do it, then to bad.  RR will string this along as long as possible. Someone has to make the right call on his long term health.

[PanthersBigD]

1 minute ago, Anybodyhome said:

Yeah. A lot of the speculation in this thread is also lacking one thing: Cam's decision. At some point, Cam needs to step up and say, "Coach, I can't go today," regardless of what anyone else thinks or says.

I have to believe that if they've been limiting his long throws and have him on a throw count, they've also had the team doctor take a look at him several times. I'd imagine they know whether it's an injury vs. residual soreness based on MRIs/X-rays. 

[Panther1iDawg]

33 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

Sounds like Cam needs to take some time like Luck did. Shut him down, have the surgery and let him sit next year or however long it takes to get it right. 

I was thinking the same thing.  It's something we as fans don't want to hear or think about, but it's a possibility.

[WarHeel]

36 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

You really see Ron Rivera doing that?

Timing and progression are everything in these situations. Two things that athletes don’t really want to hear. Surgery isn’t always necessary. I’m going to keep posting articles, information, and educating about what it is we do for people including high level athletes. 

Signed,

Just a DPT