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Panthers sign Eric Reid to 3-year contract

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WarPanthers89 Grand Master

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3 minutes ago, ChibCU said:

Correct. You are allowed to give your uninformed opinion as much as you like.

Obvioulsy you value your opinion over mine. What about my opinion makes it uninformed? The numbers have come out big guy, and I stand by my original statement. Only 10 million guaranteed for a three year deal on a top safety hitting the market in his prime? I’ll take that all day for Reid. He along with Williams are the top free agents from our team set to hit the market where people overspend like crazy (did you see the WR contracts last year??) so to lock him down I say it is a great sign for our defense who is transitioning to a hybrid 3-4.

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5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

How do you feel about a box safety in a 3-4 scheme?

Good.  Much more important...IMO.

However, I'm not really buying the 34 talk yet.  Maybe Ronnie Boy has really changed and is trying to get "outside the box" (hate that term) but IMO it seems more like Ron is saying things that Tepper wants to hear, not necessarily what he's going to do.

 

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2 minutes ago, stbugs said:

You say anomaly, I say the start of the trend. I will keep following it but we can absolutely say it was an overpay over last year. What do teams and agents use for setting prices? Last year holds a lot of weight and there is the same glut of FA safeties as last year. I could be wrong, but Hurney had a bad FA last year, spent $20m+ on Poe, Smith, Cockrell and Searcy last year with little to no impact and has been known to overpay before.

Let’s see what other safeties get and what we lose out on. We are already down to $12m in space. Hopefully, we do some freeing up of more space but we’ve lost some flexibility. 

You can't spot trends using one year of data by definition. Agents and GMs use this year's market price as well as production, anticipated demand and a number of other factors in setting a contract like anticipated cost 3 years from now on a long term contract. Seems to me with this becoming more of a passing league, safeties will be more important not less. And we are not down to 12 million in cap until we see the cap for this year. 3 year deals are usually cap friendly in year 1. And no Hurney didn't have a bad FA last year unless he could forecast the future and see his players were going to get hurt. He did a good job overall with the exception of Poe which was a disappointment to everyone. Reality is you don't like Hurney and find anything to complain about.

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10 minutes ago, WarPanthers89 said:

Obvioulsy you value your opinion over mine. What about my opinion makes it uninformed? The numbers have come out big guy, and I stand by my original statement. Only 10 million guaranteed for a three year deal on a top safety hitting the market in his prime? I’ll take that all day for Reid. He along with Williams are the top free agents from our team set to hit the market where people overspend like crazy (did you see the WR contracts last year??) so to lock him down I say it is a great sign for our defense who is transitioning to a hybrid 3-4.

Very obtuse. You made an unsupported declaration prior to knowing the financials. 

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8 minutes ago, stbugs said:

You say anomaly, I say the start of the trend. I will keep following it but we can absolutely say it was an overpay over last year. What do teams and agents use for setting prices? Last year holds a lot of weight and there is the same glut of FA safeties as last year. I could be wrong, but Hurney had a bad FA last year, spent $20m+ on Poe, Smith, Cockrell and Searcy last year with little to no impact and has been known to overpay before.

Let’s see what other safeties get and what we lose out on. We are already down to $12m in space. Hopefully, we do some freeing up of more space but we’ve lost some flexibility. 

We'll see. I could see it being an anomaly or the start of a trend. If Landon Collins doesn't sign a deal that puts him at or near the top of the market for safeties I'll lean toward trend.

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3 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

Good.  Much more important...IMO.

However, I'm not really buying the 34 talk yet.  Maybe Ronnie Boy has really changed and is trying to get "outside the box" (hate that term) but IMO it seems more like Ron is saying things that Tepper wants to hear, not necessarily what he's going to do.

 

That logic is stupid as if you could fool Tepper long. Rivera will be somewhere within 30 minutes if he was canned here. He isn't worried about his job. He is going to do his best and is trying to improve. Let's see how he does before throwing him under the bus for the hundredth time.

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26 minutes ago, PanthersBigD said:

Says the dude using adjectives like 'selfish' to describe Reid. We all know the code, man. You're not fooling anybody. The fact that you're angered by this signing makes it even sweeter. 

Yes.  Selfish, like playing out of position because it's what you want to do on a play instead of what the playbook says to do.  That's selfish and what I'm talking about.

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