Rivera Combine Press conference

[ncfan]

 

[Untouchable]

4 minutes ago, ncfan said:

Not trying to bash the riot

But they were among the ones leading the "cut in post June 1 train" prior to that article 

 

It is the right time and makes zero sense not cutting him post June 1 and opening that 7 mil in cap.  Especially when we are crunched in Cap space and trying to resign the starting RT who is actually a good OT.

They were leading the charge but not this particular contributor.  He might be the only one for the website that spends time reviewing the All-22 and basically anyone who has agrees with him (he still thinks the team will cut Kalil anyway).

[trueblade]

To distract myself from the Kalil news. 

Let the speculation begin!

108. New York Giants: QB Kyle Lauletta, Richmond
171. Dallas Cowboys: QB Mike White, Western Kentucky
199. Tennessee Titans: QB Luke Falk, Washington St.
203. Jacksonville Jaguars: QB Tanner Lee, Nebraska
219. New England Patriots: QB Danny Etling, LSU
220. Seattle Seahawks: QB Alex McGough, Florida International
Next Panthers pick was 234.
249. Cincinnati Bengals: QB Logan Woodside, Toledo 

I'm going to assume 'late' means Round 4 or later. After Lauletta went, the next Panthers pick was 136. Panthers picked 161 ten spots before White was seleted by Dallas, and then didn't pick again until 234. Most likely Round 6 or 7. The closest QB picked to our pick would have been McGoguh. We didn't have a pick after Woodside, so it's not likely him. 

[ncfan]

1 minute ago, trueblade said:

To distract myself from the Kalil news. 

Let the speculation begin!

108. New York Giants: QB Kyle Lauletta, Richmond
171. Dallas Cowboys: QB Mike White, Western Kentucky
199. Tennessee Titans: QB Luke Falk, Washington St.
203. Jacksonville Jaguars: QB Tanner Lee, Nebraska
219. New England Patriots: QB Danny Etling, LSU
220. Seattle Seahawks: QB Alex McGough, Florida International
Next Panthers pick was 234.
249. Cincinnati Bengals: QB Logan Woodside, Toledo 

I'm going to assume 'late' means Round 4 or later. After Lauletta went, the next Panthers pick was 136. Panthers picked 161 ten spots before White was seleted by Dallas, and then didn't pick again until 234. Most likely Round 6 or 7. The closest QB picked to our pick would have been McGoguh. We didn't have a pick after Woodside, so it's not likely him. 

Im liking Jordan Ta'amu from Ole Miss in the 4th-5th, reminds me a lot of Dak Prescott coming out

[mc52beast]

So we let CJ go but now Ron thinks it’s important to find a rb..

 

#missedopportunities

[Untouchable]

1 minute ago, stbugs said:

Is he trying to convince us that Kalil isn’t awful?

I don't think anyone thinks that Kalil isn't below average at best. 

[RoaringRiot]

56 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Bash away. It’s wrong. It says $14.7m is guaranteed and that’s BS. It’s already been paid out, just not accounted for in the cap due to bonus proration. Kalil is not owed another cent. 

 I'm not understanding what you're saying here. You think they can cut Kalil and walk away not paying anything else? 

 

59 minutes ago, stbugs said:

 

Cut Kalil in 2019:

2019 cap: $4.9m (dead)

2020 cap: $9.8 (dead)

 

this is the $14.7M he's referencing that they will still owe him. Not sure how you think that won't have to be paid. 

[ncfan]

 

[RoaringRiot]

29 minutes ago, ncfan said:

But they were among the ones leading the "cut in post June 1 train" prior to that article 

That had to do with them resigning Williams. Situations change. Rivera hinted towards it today too. 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 hour ago, stbugs said:

There’s a lot wrong in that article. Kalil is not due $14m+. He’s due nothing else. We made his cap hits in the first year total $10m even though he received more money. That is dead cap, i.e. stuff we pushed out with bonuses. Acting like keeping him is more palatable somehow is disingenuous and misleading. Real numbers:

Keep Kalil and cut in 2020 (post June 1st):

2019 cap: $12.5m ($7m+ new cap and $4.9m dead)

2020 cap $9.8 (dead)

Cut Kalil in 2019:

2019 cap: $4.9m (dead)

2020 cap: $9.8 (dead)

That’s the real story. Is Kalil worth another $7m+ to be on the roster for 2019? My answer is no. 

Nailed it. Saved me the typing.

 

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Note that we do have a ticking clock. If we don’t release Kalil before 3/15, his 2019 salary becomes guaranteed and Kalil is becoming Marty’s fault as much as Dave’s. 

Free agency kicks off on March 13th. Hopefully we ink Daryl Williams or some other FA OT and kick Kalil to the curb all in one fell swoop.

[Mr. Scot]

11 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Free agency kicks off on March 13th. Hopefully we ink Daryl Williams or some other FA OT and kick Kalil to the curb all in one fell swoop.

Doesn't sound like we should get our hopes up on Kalil (unfortunately, a lot of us already did).

Doesn't sound like fans of free agent safeties or Colin Kaepernick should get their hopes up either.

Rivera repeating again how we need to find a runningback to split time with McCaffrey just makes me want to pound my head against the wall.

[Pejorative Miscreant]

1 hour ago, Waldo said:

He anticipates Kalil being a part of the plan? What the actual fug!

Or he could just say hey everyone we are cutting Matt Kalil and we want to make sure you all know we are definitely targeting an OT in the draft, most likely first round.  

Nothing but coach speak   I’m not saying kalil will be gone or he will stay but I don’t think Rivera is gonna lay everything out there for the world to see either   

 

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, Pejorative Miscreant said:

Or he could just say hey everyone we are cutting Matt Kalil and we want to make sure you all know we are definitely targeting an OT in the draft, most likely first round.  

Nothing but coach speak   

 

Possible, though Rivera's never been that good at coachspeak or smokescreens.