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LinvilleGorge Grand Master

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18 minutes ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

Not a move..yet..but its some interesting informatoin.

 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2831422-seahawks-rumors-russell-wilson-said-he-wont-sign-new-contract-after-deadline

 

It's just a matter of time before some desperate team makes a move like this but whichever team's owner falls on that grenade is going to be very unpopular with the other 31 owners.

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kungfoodude Grand Master

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1 hour ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

Not a move..yet..but its some interesting informatoin.

 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2831422-seahawks-rumors-russell-wilson-said-he-wont-sign-new-contract-after-deadline

 

I am completely okay with these precedents being set. The NFL is waaaay too fuging greedy and there is no other major professional sport that the players get so little in terms of guaranteed/player friendly deals and also have to give up so much physically. 

The NFL has gotten away with this poo for far too long. 

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21 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I am completely okay with these precedents being set. The NFL is waaaay too fuging greedy and there is no other major professional sport that the players get so little in terms of guaranteed/player friendly deals and also have to give up so much physically. 

The NFL has gotten away with this poo for far too long. 

I also have no issue with any non Panther team giving a top contract to a player that will increase in value, fluidly, every expansion.  

A contract like this would doom Seattle to "meh" level of play for years.

There can be ways to change how the system works that actually benefits players.  Not a single player.  For example, increase the cap more per year (in relation to profits, tv deals, etc).  Put a higher emphasis on guaranteed contracts.  Etc.

All this does is benefit Wilson at the expense of everyone else on his team for the next 5 years.

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26 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I am completely okay with these precedents being set. The NFL is waaaay too fuging greedy and there is no other major professional sport that the players get so little in terms of guaranteed/player friendly deals and also have to give up so much physically. 

The NFL has gotten away with this poo for far too long. 

You do realize that giving a player a deal like that essentially screws over the other players on the roster, right?

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28 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I am completely okay with these precedents being set. The NFL is waaaay too fuging greedy and there is no other major professional sport that the players get so little in terms of guaranteed/player friendly deals and also have to give up so much physically. 

The NFL has gotten away with this poo for far too long. 

The NFL has a salary cap and revenue sharing between teams. It’s completely different than baseball and basketball. There’s also 53 man rosters plus practice squads plus larger referee crews than other sports.

so I would argue it’s individual players being too greedy— one gets paid $30 million per year and the others league minimum. The greedy star players who also have endorsements put themselves above the team and winning.

thats life but at the same time,.. sports are for fans—-  and fans love winning.

so I would disagree with you completely.

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32 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I am completely okay with these precedents being set. The NFL is waaaay too fuging greedy and there is no other major professional sport that the players get so little in terms of guaranteed/player friendly deals and also have to give up so much physically. 

The NFL has gotten away with this poo for far too long. 

Hopefully the Seahawks trade Russell and he gets a backup quarterback deal. That would be the precedent— set an example.

team first dude— it’s football with 53 not just a ME,..

like the rhyming?

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2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

You do realize that giving a player a deal like that essentially screws over the other players on the roster, right?

The same was said of many deals before that. The better thing for the league is a precedent like that being set so that the players can demand that kind of structure. And for the crowd that is lauding this as a "non-Panthers" thing, I would be just fine getting Luke or Cam at that kind of a deal, as well. 

I could care less about this hurting the Seahawks, I would like to see the players actually get a bigger piece of this pie, especially since the NFL just keeps making more and more money. 

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2 hours ago, JARROD said:

The NFL has a salary cap and revenue sharing between teams. It’s completely different than baseball and basketball. There’s also 53 man rosters plus practice squads plus larger referee crews than other sports.

so I would argue it’s individual players being too greedy— one gets paid $30 million per year and the others league minimum. The greedy star players who also have endorsements put themselves above the team and winning.

thats life but at the same time,.. sports are for fans—-  and fans love winning.

so I would disagree with you completely.

Well the players shouldn't have to be the bad guys when they want market value. Why should one player have to give up money to fund their teammates when the league is raking in untold billions of dollars? I understand that is how it is currently structured but that is my heartburn with that kind of system. I am definitely not arguing for a system with no salary cap like the MLB but I wouldn't mind seeing a softer cap like the NBA has and the luxury tax. 

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