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Name your front seven for 3-4, 4-3.


thunderraiden

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3-4:

REDGE: Burns | MILB1: Luke | MILB2: Thompson LEDGE: Irvin 

            RDE: Short | NT: Poe | LDE: Love/Addison/Butler?

4-3:

SOLB: Burns | MLB: Luke | WOLB: Thompson

RDE: Addison | UT: Short | NT: Poe | LDE: Irvin

 

 

I would throw in nickle but there would be like 4 different line-ups we could field for nickle in big nickle, 3-4 nickle, 4-3 nickle, and even 2 - 4 nickel which is one of Rivera's favorites.

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2 minutes ago, thunderraiden said:

3-4:

REDGE: Burns | MILB1: Luke | MILB2: Thompson LEDGE: Irvin 

            RDE: Short | NT: Poe | LDE: Love/Addison?

4-3:

RDE: Addison | UT: Short | NT: Poe | LDE: Irvin

SOLB: Burns | MLB: Luke | WOLB: Thompson

 

I would throw in nickle but there would be like 4 different line-ups we could field for nickle in big nickle, 3-4 nickle, 4-3 nickle, and even 2 - 4 nickel which is one of Rivera's favorites.

We are short on 3-4 DL, but I think we could get by. We have 3 starters and 1 or 2 backups for that scheme. I would look for us to pick up some though in FA. Our 3-4 DEs need to be like 4-3 DTs.

 

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In our base defense I don't think Burns will start. I'd say Irvin and Mario will the the OLBs in the base 3-4.

Burns will be in for pass rushing downs unless he shows he can play the run. Same goes for Miller.

We still will probably look to sign a vet 3-4 DE but right now I'd say Poe and Butler are the NTs, Love and Short DEs. There are like 4 other DTs on the roster currently who will fight to fill in depth / PS.

Cox will probably be tried at DE and the other guys who played 4-3 end last year will get their shot at OLB. Guys like Haynes and Obada probably have a better shot succeeding as 3-4 OLBs anyways.

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2 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

The concept Rivera has in mind is for these players to play either without having to substitute. 

I know he says that, but there's just no way around subbing 1 or 2 guys. I know Addison would have to come out for Butler in the 3-4 at least.

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1 minute ago, KillerKat said:

I know he says that, but there's just no way around subbing 1 or 2 guys. I know Addison would have to come out for Butler in the 3-4 at least.

1. If the offense doesn't substitute than our defense would have to be quick to make that substitution  

2. If you substitute than the offense can determine our defensive set based on who the see coming in. Countering the whole hybrid defense.  

That's why our FA and draft defensively has been based on versatile players. 

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5 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

1. If the offense doesn't substitute than our defense would have to be quick to make that substitution  

2. If you substitute than the offense can determine our defensive set based on who the see coming in. Countering the whole hybrid defense.  

That's why our FA and draft defensively has been based on versatile players. 

Yeah.  Still don't see a way around subbing at least 1 player. Unless we're plugging Addison ahead of Irvin or Miller in 3-4 sets.

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3-4 set

Olb- Irvin, Miller, 

ILB - Kuechly, Thompson, Carter, smith

Olb - Addison, Burns, haynes

De - Love, cox Jr, 

NT - Poe, Butler

De - KK, Obada

If you have the starters on the field. The move to 4-3 looks like

De- Addison

NT - Poe

Dt - Love

De - Short

Move Irvin and Thompson to OLB, Kuechly stays in the middle.  

Been thinking, Obada is already 265 and 6-6, probably ask him and Cox Jr to add bulk to play end in the 3-4. 

 

 

That said I think it's a pure 3-4 move as the new base. 

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IMHO the only interesting question is what the nickel looks like.  IF we only play in base 30% of the time and that gets split between the two fronts, we won’t see either of those very much.  

 

My guess is you take one of the 3-4 ends off and run a 2-4 as defaukt like 50% of the time.  3-3 maybe 12% and and maybe even some 2-3.  Like 8%.  

 

Id guess we see a pure 3-4% 20%  and 4-3 10%

 

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