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Bobby Wagner signs 3 year, $54 million extension, $40.2 mil gtd.

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45catfan Grand Master

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2 hours ago, Tbe said:

WOW. So they now have TWO guys taking up 1/3 of their salary cap? Wagner + Wilson = 51mil a year. 

Jeez. See ya sea chickens....

Yeah, I used to be a Russell Wilson fan, but now he's just a greedy diva.  Wagner at least is a top 2 ILB, so his huge contract was more deserving.  The Seahawks are starting to cannibalize their championship hopes with greed.  As much as I loath the Patriots, their model is proven:  players wanting to be consistent winners are willing to play for average contracts. Want a fat contract?   Play for the Browns and enjoy the jewelry, cars and houses as long as players don't mind ever seeing a winning season much less a Super Bowl.

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17 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Yeah, I used to be a Russell Wilson fan, but now he's just a greedy diva.  Wagner at least is a top 2 ILB, so his huge contract was more deserving.  The Seahawks are starting to cannibalize their championship hopes with greed.  As mush as I loath the Patriots, their model is proven:  players wanting to be consistent winners are willing to play for average contracts. Want a fat contract?   Play for the Browns and enjoy the jewelry, cars and houses as long as players don't mind never seeing a winning season much less a Super Bowl.

I think the proven model is more along the lines of “have arguably the greatest head coach of all time and arguably the greatest QB of all time (who is also willing to take less than his market value to leave more money to build a team around him), win multiple championships, then some players will play for average contracts.”

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3 minutes ago, WUnderhill said:

I think the proven model is more along the lines of “have arguably the greatest head coach of all time and arguably the greatest QB of all time (who is also willing to take less than his market value to leave more money to build a team around him), win multiple championships, then some players will play for average contracts.”

Bill is part just as big of a part of that equation on the contractual side as the coaching side.  He is the one that started the "Patriot way."  No one player is player is above the team.  Had Brady decided years ago he wanted to be the highest paid QB in the League (based on his production, who would have argued?) he'd be elsewhere.  

The Seahawks are eventually going to find themselves in cap hell handing out top-end deals like dollar-store candy.

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13 minutes ago, WUnderhill said:

I think the proven model is more along the lines of “have arguably the greatest head coach of all time and arguably the greatest QB of all time (who is also willing to take less than his market value to leave more money to build a team around him), win multiple championships, then some players will play for average contracts.”

You left out the part where the QB's wife makes more than him. Wilson could afford to take a pay cut. 

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1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

The cap will go up over their careers but that is still a big chunk, no question.

Sure, but not that much. Wagners contract is only 3 years.

They have a way of making average talent work, but I don’t see how they build a perennial playoff contender with that cap situation. They’re going to have some serious holes somewhere. No one is that good at drafting.

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