Welcome to Ron and Marty's final chance

[Cpt slay a ho]

I can’t see a reason to fire hurney, small mistakes made but nothin critical or directly attributes to the failure of the team, now Rivera it’s different, posters have already highlighted Rivera’s issues, so barring cam’s health, I think a losing season, especially if the defense is lackluster, I say we retool instead of rebuild, rebuild means everyone not name dj Moore,cmc, d Jax will probably be shipped out. So I say we retool if things go off the rails instead of blowing it up.

[PanthersFanNY]

1 hour ago, TN05 said:

4/8 playoff seasons. 3 division titles in the league’s toughest division.

How many playoff games has Garrett won? How many Super Bowls has Garrett coached? How many coach of the year awards does Garrett have?

 

 

He fell ass backwards into the playoffs at 7-8-1. I'm not sure I'd count that as a success.

 

Jason Garrett has won 2 playoff games to Ron's 3. Not a big difference. Coach of the year is largely meaningless.

 

Ron gets to the playoffs less frequently than:

Sean Payton

Mike Tomlin

Pete Carroll 

John Harbaugh

Bill Belechick

Bill o'Brien 

Sean Mcvay 

 

Those are just active coaches. There are several that get there as frequently and if you decide to not include the year he lucked into it you'd have a lot more.

 

His coach of the year awards from 6 and 4 years ago don't do anything for me. His Super Bowl appearance four years ago isn't giving me warm feelings anymore. Im not saying he's the worst coach of all time but i think his style is antiquated and he clearly gets outcoached when he's up against superior coaches. His time here has run its course and we can do better.

 

[Basbear]

I just judge on playoffs, they make the playoffs and give them one year grace........Its a viscous cycle and ready for different leadership.

[ellis]

2014 was a very odd season. But somebody had to mop the floor with the rest of the division in December. Ron and Cam did it, with an assist from Derek Anderson and their pass rush. 

Week 17 at Atlanta. Still one of my fav Panthers road wins of all time. 

 

[GoPanthers123]

Hurney has evolved and apparently so has Ron. Tepper has been a winning influence.  

[t96]

4 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

I can’t see a reason to fire hurney, small mistakes made but nothin critical or directly attributes to the failure of the team, now Rivera it’s different, posters have already highlighted Rivera’s issues, so barring cam’s health, I think a losing season, especially if the defense is lackluster, I say we retool instead of rebuild, rebuild means everyone not name dj Moore,cmc, d Jax will probably be shipped out. So I say we retool if things go off the rails instead of blowing it up.

GM and HC are both responsible for getting a team to the playoffs and ultimately winning it all. The GM builds the roster and the HC works with that to win on game day with gameplans, how to utilize players, etc. Obviously there is a ton that goes into that but if we miss the playoffs this year that is two straight years that Hurney’s roster has contributed to not making the playoffs.

 

There are certainly a lot of factors that go into it and varying degrees of responsibility by the coach and GM which need to be evaluated but if you miss the playoffs two straight years it’s definitely not all on the coach, especially one who had a fair amount of success with a different GM...

[Xtreme]

[pantherclaw]

7 hours ago, Cary Kollins said:

 

Honestly I'm excited for the day Tepper gets to hire his own guys.

Hurney and Rivera are his guys. 

Or they'd be gone. 

[Cary Kollins]

5 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

Hurney and Rivera are his guys. 

Or they'd be gone. 

 

“His guys” as in he hired them.

[pantherclaw]

9 minutes ago, Cary Kollins said:

 

“His guys” as in he hired them.

It's Teppers team. He has hired them. 

[JARROD]

4 hours ago, MHS831 said:

it all started around the pie chart presser.  The one when JR basically spanked Darrin Gant in front of everyone and hit on Morgan Fogherty.  It showed me a crazy man.  A few days later, Andrew Luck decided to return to Stanford. We had the first pick. 

Well it’s a good thing that happened!

We were really LUCKy and dodged that bullet... ha

[pantherclaw]

Several have said this, and it's absolutely true. 

If Rivera gets canned,  Cam's Panther career is over. 

I personally can't see this team having a losing season this year. 

[Cary Kollins]

9 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

It's Teppers team. He has hired them. 

 

jfc

[PantherOnTheProwl1523]

5 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

Several have said this, and it's absolutely true. 

If Rivera gets canned,  Cam's Panther career is over. 

I personally can't see this team having a losing season this year. 

If Ron gets fired Cam can play as Cam does without anyone holding him back and limiting what he can do in games.