Cam has been pretty good in the 1st Quarter

[TheRed]

15 minutes ago, TbTeRRoR said:

Maybe its because he's gone 100% vegan and they have lower testosterone levels then real men and incidentally he's started cross dressing....but whatever ...I'm just saying .....science

[GoobyPls]

1 hour ago, Bartin said:

3. The first 10 or so plays are scripted and have quick easy throws built into them

More like first 15.

 

This is the correct answer to OP thread. Just look at Trubisky first quarter numbers

[AceBoogie]

21 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

More like first 15.

 

This is the correct answer to OP thread. Just look at Trubisky first quarter numbers

Wrong. Mitch is better in the 2nd and 3rd quarters so try again. You could at least pull stats. 

[uncfan888]

46 minutes ago, TbTeRRoR said:

Maybe its because he's gone 100% vegan and they have lower testosterone levels then real men and incidentally he's started cross dressing....but whatever ...I'm just saying .....science

 

 

and just to add to this....I'd be fine with a 6'6 Broomhilda being the panthers QB if she could play.......and eat red meat

I see that you are a dad.. I hope you don't teach that way of thinking to your child

[weyco2000]

2 hours ago, AceBoogie said:

With all of the Cam threads and how bad he’s played nobody ever points out that he’s started both games pretty perfect. 4/4 at the beginning of both games. 

I decided to look at the stats and found something interesting. Cam has been really good in the first quarter. The really interesting thing is that he’s also pretty solid in the third and terrible in the 4th. 

So there’s two theories you can form here:

1.He’s still hurt and he’s better when’s he’s fresh at the beginning of the game and after half. 

2. The offensive line breaks down as the game goes on which of course affects Cam. 

1st Quarter

14/19 | 73.7% completion | 7.9 avg | 96.6 rating 

2nd Quarter

13/24 | 54.2% completion | 5.5 avg | 70.0 rating

3rd Quarter

9/16 | 56.2% completion | 10.1 avg | 90.9 rating 

4th Quarter

14/30 | 46.7 completion | 4.3 avg | 45.0 rating 

Just a different take to the Cam is washed conversation. 

Because the plays are scripted? 

[GoobyPls]

5 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

Wrong. Mitch is better in the 2nd and 3rd quarters so try again. You could at least pull stats. 

Wrong 

https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2019/7/23/20706554/chicago-bears-mitch-trubisky-best-during-games-matt-nagy-ryan-pace-passer-rating-quarter-splits

 

 

[raleigh-panther]

59 minutes ago, CMCVP#22 said:

Because they stacked the box to stop CMC and short underneath passes.  Because they know Cam and I say it’s his shoulder had to much ligament damage and hurt his power and he has to throw it to hard to get anything on it an Kills his accuracy.  Look at it like a baseball if you throw a baseball as hard as you can you have no control. So he’s having to overthrow everything strength wise there fore no accuracy 

Yes, I know they stacked the box,  it doesn’t take 50 hard throws to make them stop doing it

i don’t disagree with you on the shoulder 

the Panthers  act like ‘stacking the box’ is some new defensive theory 

 

[uncfan888]

1 minute ago, bull123 said:

When the game is on the line is when Cam is the worst

lost our last 9 in a row with him at QB

No poo. And how many of those was he injured for? At least think before posting man

[ImaginaryKev]

My primary problem with his play is missing the wide open WR, after making the correct reads. Feels like more of a physical thing but not sure it matters. Hoping he pulls an Andrew Luck minus the retirement and gets back to normal as the season goes. I mean if we're being optimists

[TbTeRRoR]

33 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

I see that you are a dad.. I hope you don't teach that way of thinking to your child

I've been a Cam defender for years now....hes making it very difficult   You add the veganism  which = low testosterone levels (proven by science) + his "style" = obvious comic opportunity.  I hope your kids have a good sense of humor.  

[ChrisSimmsspleen]

Cam is still hurt.  Will return to MVP form any day now.   Still rusty.   Blah blah blah blah blah.  

[CRA]

3 hours ago, AceBoogie said:

With all of the Cam threads and how bad he’s played nobody ever points out that he’s started both games pretty perfect. 4/4 at the beginning of both games. 

I decided to look at the stats and found something interesting. Cam has been really good in the first quarter. The really interesting thing is that he’s also pretty solid in the third and terrible in the 4th. 

So there’s two theories you can form here:

1.He’s still hurt and he’s better when’s he’s fresh at the beginning of the game and after half. 

2. The offensive line breaks down as the game goes on which of course affects Cam. 

1st Quarter

14/19 | 73.7% completion | 7.9 avg | 96.6 rating 

2nd Quarter

13/24 | 54.2% completion | 5.5 avg | 70.0 rating

3rd Quarter

9/16 | 56.2% completion | 10.1 avg | 90.9 rating 

4th Quarter

14/30 | 46.7 completion | 4.3 avg | 45.0 rating 

Just a different take to the Cam is washed conversation. 

I’m a firm believer Igo was on to something. 

Opponents do a better job coming after Cam once they learn to time his snap tell.  I think that could play into it.  

 

[KillaCamNewton]

Why are we throwing 50 times with him in the first place? Even when he was in his prime we were never winning games when he was throwing 35+ times a game. Our offense has always clicked when we have a balanced mix of passing and running and more importantly Cam being part of that running. Restricting him and having him throw 50 times from the pocket is like keeping Lebron out of the paint and having him jack up 20 3’s in a game - of course he’ll look like poo

[onmyown]

4 minutes ago, KillaCamNewton said:

Why are we throwing 50 times with him in the first place? Even when he was in his prime we were never winning games when he was throwing 35+ times a game. Our offense has always clicked when we have a balanced mix of passing and running and more importantly Cam being part of that running. Restricting him and having him throw 50 times from the pocket is like keeping Lebron out of the paint and having him jack up 20 3’s in a game - of course he’ll look like poo

Throwing 50 times wasn’t the gameplan.

Cam does not run it anymore, and can not accurately throw past 5 yards. He used to be able to stretch the field because he would bomb it. Defenses had to respect that and the fact he could take off.

Both those are gone. So you’re left with defenders gladly willing to give up short passes, and the occasional 10-15 yarders by boxing the run leaving the backfield empty.

Tampa and LA both did this very successfully. Bend no break. The only way to stop it is to successfully stretch the field and complete deep passing routes and stretch the field.

Especially considering the system the Panther’s are running.