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Ron Rivera: “Cam is the Starter, but right now we are going to depend on Kyle going forward”


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4 minutes ago, ok2h8pep said:

Ron continues to display his complete cluelessness.   In the real world this would get him fired before Monday Morning.

Really doubt Ron meant anything malicious by it and was just trying to be funny.  He probably shouldn't have said it, but ffs people shouldn't blow it out of proportion.

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1 minute ago, Cdw said:

Really doubt Ron meant anything malicious by it and was just trying to be funny.  He probably shouldn't have said it, but ffs people shouldn't blow it out of proportion.

Ron probably shouldn't try to be funny.

Yeah, it should be nothing, but ya know...

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5 minutes ago, Everfrost said:

In the real world People laugh at the joke. In your npc the world ends.

Not NPC.  But what Ron said is a serious HR violation.  Imagine the boss saying that about one of the female workers where you work (assuming you are gainfully employed).

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3 minutes ago, ok2h8pep said:

Not NPC.  But what Ron said is a serious HR violation.  Imagine the boss saying that about one of the female workers where you work (assuming you are gainfully employed).

Rivera was trying to be funny and really it was. I seriously doubt Cam has any kind of animosity towards RR for anything over his career... Rivera is VERY loyal to Cam, usually goes both ways. Rivera will be a head coach somewhere next year.... maybe not here and if we don’t resign Cam I would be shocked if Rivera wasn’t screaming to get Cam from the top of a mountain in his new organization.

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Everyone should probably put the square wheels on for a bit.

Allen played very very well, but against a less than all world defense.  At the same time, he did show a lot of composure and ran the Norv offense with quite a bit of efficiency.  He and Cam could certainly benefit from a solid LT.

One day does not make an NFL QB.  Panther fans would sell their daughters for a win, so just keep in mind that he needs more than a debut to take over.  Defenses have not studied him, cause there's nothing to study.  It will get harder.  Hopefully, he will get even better to match.

At least Cam has time to nurse his wounds and get healthy.

When we are 4-2, then we can talk about sending Cam elsewhere

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If Allen is the real deal then he has the opportunity to run away with the job. If he shows faults and Cam is getting healthy then you give Cam one more shot.

The problem there however is that Rivera and Hurney are probably on the hot seat. Losing games to see how well Cam does can cost them their jobs. 

I love Cam and I hope his competitive spirit rises to the occasion and he takes this challenge head on to be better than ever. But even if Cam is healthy you could make the argument that he doesn’t access the potential of the offense the way Kyle can. Cam hasn’t been healthy enough to fine tune his game and pick up where he left off.  It’s not just the running element anymore. Kyle looks like he can throw all over the field. Cam has to now be as good as Kyle and then some. It is getting to that point unfortunately.

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