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Let's be honest with all the trade talk.


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Cam Newton is injured. People have questioned his longevity and if he will ever be the same. He is also q MVP QB who can do things no other QB in the league can do. With that knowledge many teams will make a push this off season for him. Knowing all this I really hope the Panthers stick to their gun but entertain offers of no less than two first round picks. Newton is one of the better QBs in the league and will be for the short term. Any team that would get him would be getting a top 10 QB. We just happen to have another QB who is really good and that's a great situation to be in. 

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41 minutes ago, Bartin said:

We aren’t getting 2 1sts for Cam unless he comes back, stays healthy and plays well.

We aren’t trading him if he comes back, stays healthy and plays well.

2 1sts isn’t happening regardless

Cam will likely leave like everyone else whenever the time comes.   Can't think of a single name that has played here who we got diddly poo for. 

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30 minutes ago, FakePlasticTrees said:

I suspect that in order for Cam Newton to have significant trade value during the off-season he would need to play consistently well this season. However, if he plays consistently well this season, he is unlikely to be traded. 

winner winner chicken dinner!

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32 minutes ago, FakePlasticTrees said:

I suspect that in order for Cam Newton to have significant trade value during the off-season he would need to play consistently well this season. However, if he plays consistently well this season, he is unlikely to be traded. 

Mostly agree, though to be fair plenty of coaches think that whatever was causing a guy to be bad on his former team is something they can fix because well, "I'm a genius".

I mean hell, two different teams thought they could make Antonio Brown behave himself.

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