Person: Possible "Tug of War" coming

[micnificent28]

Cam and Ron's relationship has always seemed good to me.. maybe I'm missing what others are insinuating but I can remember from day one and till this day Ron's "go out there and be great play like you" to Cam since his rookie year... I would argue Ron is as big a supporter of Cam as anyone else.  Maybe more than Hurney at this point because he has been around him more since Hurney was fired for a season or 2..

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

There are hundreds of reports about these type of things, the vast majority are made up crap.  

So was that one.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, micnificent28 said:

Cam and Ron's relationship has always seemed good to me.. maybe I'm missing what others are insinuating but I can remember from day one and till this day Ron's "go out there and be great play like you" to Cam since his rookie year... I would argue Ron is as big a supporter of Cam as anyone else.  Maybe more than Hurney at this point because he has been around him more since Hurney was fired for a season or 2..

You're not missing anything.

That post was bullsh-t.

[hepcat]

Here are the facts:

• Cam had his second shoulder surgery in 3 years in January. 
• Cam couldn't practice fully in training camp or during the pre-season
• Cam made it through 9 plays in the pre-season before getting injured.
• Cam lasted two games in the regular season before being benched to recover from his injuries.
• Cam has lost his last 8 games, and hasn't won a game in almost a year.
• The team has looked noticeably more energetic and overall more positive with Kyle Allen
• Kyle Allen is now 5-0 starting in place of Cam Newton

Yes, 2015 Cam Newton would have been an upgrade over Kyle Allen. Physically broken down losing streak 2019 Cam Newton may not be.

 

[usmcpanthers]

Ron has a job and 2 COTY awards due to Cam, their has to be a good amount of loyalty to him.

[Ja Rhule]

Either Cam or Allen will be traded for multiple picks in offseason.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, ARSEN said:

Either Cam or Allen will be traded for multiple picks in offseason.

Not buying either of them gets traded.

Yeah, anything can happen, but I'd be shocked.

[t96]

22 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I wouldn't say "never".

If he doesn't show he can get back to health, there's a loooooot of cap savings to be had next season and very little dead money.

Granted, I would onsider it highly unlikely, but not impossible.

We could easily get a 3rd for him, likely much more. He would definitely not be released.

[tiger7_88]

49 minutes ago, GreensboroPirate said:

Rivera is not the GM, Hurney was

There was a report Hurney had to override Rivera on draft night, as Rivera wanted to chose a defensive player and believed Newton to be a flash in the pan

 

I believe this kind of anonymously-based “report” about as much as I believe the ones about Dave Gettleman.

They always come attached with the agenda of the anonymous source and you never know what that agenda is.

[ecu88]

4 minutes ago, ARSEN said:

Either Cam or Allen will be traded for multiple picks in offseason.

A David Tepper move would be hedge the risk, minimize cost and reload for the future.

Cam will be over 30 with an ever building injury history and with a hefty future price tag. If rumors of other NFL teams want him, then you could say the most nonattached decision is trade him and stay the course with KA after this season is over.

Cam is who got me on this board after years of lurking. I was excited for us to get him. I want the best for him but at the same time I had to get out of my system that Panthers are my team, not a player.

The goal is winning the SB. It does not matter who the coach is, the roster, etc just win baby.

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, t96 said:

We could easily get a 3rd for him, likely much more. He would definitely not be released.

Unless teams think you're just going to cut him anyway.

Mind you, I'm not buying into cut or trade scenarios. The only serious possibility I see for Newton not being a Panther next year is retirement.

But I do acknowledge there's a lot that can happen.

[Harbingers]

8 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Here are the facts:

• Cam had his second shoulder surgery in 3 years in January. 
• Cam couldn't practice fully in training camp or during the pre-season
• Cam made it through 9 plays in the pre-season before getting injured.
• Cam lasted two games in the regular season before being benched to recover from his injuries.
• Cam has lost his last 8 games, and hasn't won a game in almost a year.
• The team has looked noticeably more energetic and overall more positive with Kyle Allen
• Kyle Allen is now 5-0 starting in place of Cam Newton

Yes, 2015 Cam Newton would have been an upgrade over Kyle Allen. Physically broken down losing streak 2019 Cam Newton may not be.

 

In yet Cam homers or Cam haters don’t seem to understand this. 

It isn’t about stats or who’s the better quarterback overall. 

Cam simply consistently did not make clutch throws in games 1-2. His running was non existent. He did not improve his whole kneeling/clock management thing. The only time he looked comfortable was on scripted drives. 

Kyle Allen has breathed life into this team but we will also see his maturity curve the longer he plays and if he’s able to stand up to the best.

Speaking of clock management. Have we had a Delay of Game or had to use a timeout on offense to avoid that since Allen took over? I can’t recall one.

Which people screaming bloody murder on the coaches over but seems there was one common denominator there. 

[Ja Rhule]

10 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Not buying either of them gets traded.

Yeah, anything can happen, but I'd be shocked.

We got Grier in 3rd.  We are not carrying potentially 3 starting QBs.

[Moo Daeng]

This whole thing is becoming absurd. The best things we can do as fans now is drop the drama. The more we play in to it the more the media will hound the team on it. That's not going to help anything. It's not going to stop escalating as long as we fight over it. Last night on WFNZ they were directly alluding to a thread topic here.