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Ja Rhule Grand Master

Ja Rhule

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3 minutes ago, NAS said:

Tired of seeing teams run it down this team’s throats and Luke being a shell of himself.  Put them back to what they used to do best and stop the run.  At least do it on 1st downs, this isn’t working.

We do not have enough DEs or LBs for 4-3.  Most of our 4-3 DEs are 250lbs...  those are 3-4LBs.  That’s what happens when you transition a D from 4-3 to 3-4.  Takes longer than a year.

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5 minutes ago, ARSEN said:

We do not have enough DEs or LBs for 4-3.

Addison and Wes Horton have played 4-3 DE. I think a big reason they brought Horton back was to re-implement some 4-3 looks to help the run defense. Bruce Irvin is a hybrid player who could play both on the line and as a standup linebacker. But you’re right the LB depth isn’t there for a true 4-3.
 

At the very least they could throw Kyle Love and Dontari Poe in the middle, and Gerald McCoy and Vernon Butler on the edges to all out stop the run. Use one pass rusher LB like Burns or Irvin, and then of course Luke and Shaq. Haven’t seen a look quite like this yet. Would be useful when they are losing and need to stop the run.

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1 minute ago, hepcat said:

Except we do. Addison and Wes Horton have played 4-3 DE. I think a big reason they brought Horton back was to re-implement some 4-3 looks to help the run defense. Bruce Irvin is a hybrid player who could play both on the line and as a standup linebacker. But you’re right the LB depth isn’t there for a true 4-3.
 

At the very least they could throw Kyle Love and Dontari Poe in the middle, and Gerald McCoy and Vernon Butler on the edges to all out stop the run. Use one pass rusher like Burns or Irvin, and then of course Luke and Shaq. Haven’t seen a look quite like this yet. Would be useful when they are losing and need to stop the run.

Addison is a rusher and Horton has been unemployed for a long time.  I would not consider them great run stoppers.

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Get a NT and play 3-4. The 4-3 we play is super weak and another Rivera boondoggle, like the buffalo nickle. Shaq is fast but not speedy Wr fast. Our current setup is made to fail against the run. The theory is ok but the execution is not that good.

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I think we need to stay the course with the 3-4.  This is year one, and it's done what we wanted it to, which is create pressure on the passer.  We just need to button up the run defense.  Kuechly is not underperforming because of the scheme.  He's getting played by the offense.  He's falling for every trick they pull.  He needs to adjust his game, plain and simple.

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