Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

We got what we wanted, but then...


Khyber53

Recommended Posts

It was time and it was obvious that it was going to happen.

But if you are thinking that the Panthers are going to take flight like a bird released from some sort of cage, you're going to be in for a sad, dispiriting and devastating ride.

This is rebuild mode and the team is going to change mightily before next season. A new coach, if given free reign, is going to put his stamp on as much of this team as possible. It won't be everyone, but you can imagine that at least one third of our current starters will be gone next year, possibly including some fan favorites. They'll be lost to contract negotiations, released for old injuries that you and I don't know about, and maybe a couple let go to change the locker room. 

Their replacements will be pretty much just substitutes -- placeholders until the roster can be churned and rebuilt.

Second stringers, and we all have our favorite guys from the bench we like to see in rotation or hope they get a shot, well, maybe a third of them will remain. All to the refrain of, it's just business and we're making something better.

Be prepared. Chances are no playoffs next year or the next as we retool. That defense that hadn't really transformed over to a 3-4 completely yet? If they go back to a 4-3 it's going to be even worse considering the personnel on hand, and probably only a bit better if they continue with the current direction.

I hope we get a good coach, an innovative one. Reality says, though, that it's a roll of the dice and the final iteration of the next Panthers incarnation will take a couple of seasons to come to maturity. So, buckle up oh Masters of the Moans, Wizards of the Whines, you've got a lot of angsty Sundays ahead of you.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

God, everyone is so EMO today! Rivera wasn't ever going to get it done here. He'd gotten complacent and so had his players. Tepper was right to pull the trigger now so that everything is done in the open. The fact that Rivera may be a hot commodity for other teams speaks the the dearth of new and innovative coaching talent in the NFL more than it does to the Panthers not appreciating what they had. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

13 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I have no problem with what's ahead.

It was a better choice than just sticking with where we were.

I agree totally. We are already at the point of missing the playoffs multiple years in a row, the only difference is we don’t get a good draft pick because we always end up middle of the pack. Not bad enough to get a top pick, not good enough to compete in the division or make the playoffs. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 minutes ago, rayzor said:

Better an uncertain future that may take a couple years to see success than traveling down this road/rut we've been stuck in.

I'm fine with the struggling. I'm not fine with a mediocre status quo.

Until struggling becomes the status quo again? Or are you going to roll with it? 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, WarPanthers89 said:

I agree totally. We are already at the point of missing the playoffs multiple years in a row, the only difference is we don’t get a good draft pick because we always end up middle of the pack. Not bad enough to get a top pick, not good enough to compete in the division or make the playoffs. 

Yup, and RoncCo. would have kept us there.

As I have stated many times 7-9/9-7 is a bad place to be in the NFL.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

We need an innovative offensive minded head coach and a QB with the talent and intellect to execute the offense at a high level. I hate to say it but I want what the Saints have had under their QB/HC combo. Ron would have kept building middle of the road teams for the most part imo. I want more. I'm willing to wait and lose for more.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Blah, blah, rebuild, blah. Y'all realize we've never had back-to-back winning seasons right? That's absolutely pathetic and going through some rebuilding and gradually improving is less frustrating than the up-down roller coaster of winning season, losing season, winning season, losing season...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, stbugs said:

Many more than most people think. The 2018 and 2019 drafts were lauded so much that you’d think we’d have more than 2 guys from them actually started when those drafts began with 2 1sts, 2 2nds and 4 3rds. Maybe it’s just me but with 8 potential starters, having 2 so far makes me feel like you that we Huddleston overestimate the talent we have.

It's what a certain group on this forum do.

Maybe it's the ESPN'ing of the fans....draft grades an hour after, winning the offseason, loving every big named trade or signing....

Team and players name is called in the draft....fans run to YouTube type said players name and the word highlight behind it, and convince themselves that this player is going to be great.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • That new home page looking sexy and thicc
    • Serious question:  Why LG and not RG?  There may be something I do not know, but Hunt's contract is huge and he could be let go after this season (post june 1 cut) and it would save the Panthers a ton of money.  Extending him would be paying a G who is in his mid 30s guaranteed money (and I do not see that as a terrible thing).  So if we release him at age 31, we save $19m.  I like him, but at 31, will he be worth the mega contract?   LG Damien Lewis has actually outperformed Hunt and he is a year younger.  He would also save less vs. the cap and leave less in the dead cap pool.  While his current contract expires after the 2027 season, he is a better prospect (IMO) to extend because only 50% of his current contract was guaranteed.  Here are his contract numbers.   Now, getting to Ickey--he could want LT money if he is offered a second contract.  If we pay him LT money to play either G positions, we are likely overpaying.  Secondly, the injury he suffered could be one that limits his productivity.  Ickey was improving, but he was an average LT.  The only way I re-sign Ickey is to have him accept a G contract and make a lot of it incentive based.     I feel like I am missing something, but in my mind, Ickey was always a guard if you consider the fact that he is an average OT and would be a great G.  Is that still the case (injury)?
    • Supplemental draft uses picks from next year. So a team were to draft him in the 1st, their upcoming 1st next draft would no longer be available. There have been some notable players that were obtained in the supplemental draft, such as Kosar. It doesn't necessarily happen every year either, and is more on a as needed basis. The gambling trouble is a big red flag for teams, and maybe pushes him down to a 4th? Not sure a team would use a 1st on him.
×
×
  • Create New...