Shaq signed to 4 year extension through 2023

[rodeo]

dude Guest you have got to stop reporting posts this poo stinks

[Diehardpanther02]

9 minutes ago, bobowilson said:

Massive overpay for a non edge linebacker who does not impact the game on a high level.  Even if he was one of the best linebackers in the NFL, I wouldn't want to spend 13 million dollars on him given how much we're paying Luke.  You don't build an elite modern defense through heavy allocation of cap resources into linebackers.

This is actually Hurney's worst move in a decade

Indefensible

 

Actually it is pretty defensible. And we wouldn't be defensible in our history without the linebackers we've been blessed with. San Fran with Bowman and Willis, Ravens Suggs and Lewis, Bears Urlacher and the other guy who's name I forgot. But my point is everyone of those great defenses allocated their assets to the LB Corps because those are your QBS and RBS of your defense.  You no nothing about football if you can't see that we aren't the same team without Luke and Shaq.

[Ja Rhule]

1 minute ago, rodeo said:

i like Shaq but with with 3-4 linebackers with his size i guess we don't intend to stop another run ever

With 3-4, Shaq will go against OL a lot.  This movie by Hurney screams 2 things... 1) He does not understand 3-4 defense and 2) he will look to switch back to 4-3.

[ellis]

 

[Growl]

pretty fair deal looking at how it's structured.

 

 

lol at the "7-8 per season" fantasy

[ellis]

Shaq is a superb athlete. But he’s being wasted in this one gap dumpster fire of a defense. There are ways to utilize him in nickel, and they done a good job moving him around in the pass rush. I hope the next coach can find a way to put 50/59 back in a winning position pre-snap. 

[ImaginaryKev]

I'd honestly rather pay him than Bradberry

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, ellis said:

Shaq is a superb athlete. But he’s being wasted in this one gap dumpster fire of a defense. There are ways to utilize him in nickel, and they done a good job moving him around in the pass rush. I hope the next coach can find a way to put 50/59 back in a winning position pre-snap. 

This is my issue. Shaq has never lived up to his potential. We paid him for his potential five years into his career. At some point, you are what you are on the football field. Pie in the sky potential has to stop impacting decisions.

[TheSpecialJuan]

Shaq is a terrific LB and is having a much better season than Luke. Re-signing him was always going to be pricey but we keep a cornerstone player, that's what's important. 

[WoahW]

3 minutes ago, ellis said:

Shaq is a superb athlete. But he’s being wasted in this one gap dumpster fire of a defense. There are ways to utilize him in nickel, and they done a good job moving him around in the pass rush. I hope the next coach can find a way to put 50/59 back in a winning position pre-snap. 

More than anything it’s been scheme and coaching. If we let Shaq and Luke play where they are comfortable we have two elite (1 GOAT level) LBers who never have to leave the field

[thefuzz]

Well, that's done, can't say I'm a fan of the amount or the timing, just hoping for a good structure.

Hopefully we didn't pull the classic Hurney move on this one and backload the deal....but we all know he did, if he got his way.

If it's a 2 year $26M deal with no dead money on the books after 2, I'll be OK with it....don't love it, but not back breaking either.

Would have much preferred Bradberry, but the Panthers do love to spend big on LB's.

[Mr. Scot]

I'm kind of hoping that we're also talking to Bradberry.

I feel fairly comfortable saying that if the result of the next offseason is that we paid this much for Thompson but let Bradberry get away, people will probably be... miffed.

[TheSpecialJuan]

[Sgt Schultz]

2 minutes ago, ARSEN said:

With 3-4, Shaq will go against OL a lot.  This movie by Hurney screams 2 things... 1) He does not understand 3-4 defense and 2) he will look to switch back to 4-3.

This is my major concern.  The money looks big right now, but might not look bad in a few months when the FA signings are done. 

Buuutt, we have an unknown defensive scheme which will be determined by an unknown head coach and an unknown defensive coordinator.  It's not like whoever the coach is will be coming into a team that is a known 4-3 or 3-4 team and moves forward with that. 

I don't mind them committing back to the 4-3 based on the strength of the personnel (in fact, that would be my prefernce), but that is a call for the new HC and DC to make.  Unfortunately, that means resigning/extending any DL or LB right now is a shot in the dark.

Ready.......Fire........Aim!