Rivera wants to coach for "a winner"

[onmyown]

Ron doesn’t know how to teach. He doesn’t know how to coach attitudes. He’s like Fox. He prefers a vet to the point he’ll cripple the team over it. He fails to be able to get the most out of young talent. Norman is a good example.
 

There are successful coaches like this but generally they’re master schemers. I mean if you’re not teaching and trying to plug and play vets all day you need a strength somewhere. A coach who can scheme real well and get the players to respect them/leadership will do great with Ron’s mantra.

Unfortunately I’m not really sure the players respected Ron. They liked him as a person but no vet was worried any more talented person was ever going to take their spot. They could go out on their own terms. And as far as scheming, Ron always went in with a decent plan. Rarely fell behind before the half.

But his stubbornness and refusal to adjust made the latter half made every game too close for comfort and forget playing from behind unless the players bailed him out.

All in all I’d have to agree with Ron. He would be an awful candidate for a team trying to rebuild.

[Ship]

Again, you’re all in denial about the status of this team and the roster. The remainder of this season with a leadership vacuum in coaching is going to be ugly and by the end of season we’ll be ready to gut things. 
 

Cam - gone, no guarantee of a new franchise QB

Luke - probably retiring in the next 3 years. Won’t be a long term piece in a rebuild.

D-line - KK, McCoy, and Poe likely gone. Doubtful McCoy signs for longer in a rebuild and the culture here is gone and will have to be rebuilt too.

Secondary - Jackson has to have someone keeping him in check or he’s going to turn into a cancer. He also has more to learn as a player. Hopefully we keep JB. Reid is a piece but he’s not the type of leader we need. We need a disciplinarian and heart guy like TD. Reid isn’t keeping Jackson on track.

Ron built a team here and developed a culture that never gave up for 9 years. But the talent wheels have been falling off this team since 2016. I don’t blame him wanting to go through it again. Only young or narcissistic coaches want to build a team from scratch. See any new hire or Jon Gruden. We’re going to be getting someone young and eager to prove himself or a retread willing to do whatever Tepper says. Doubtful on the narcissist types because Tepper won’t stand for that. 

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, Navy_football said:

With the advantage of hindsight, sure. But going into the season, when was the last time the o-line looked this good? Or the WR corp? Or the RB group? Or the TE group? Pass Rushers? DTs? Secondary?

I can't judge a team based on what we thought they were going to be.

The job of the people in charge is to get those decisions right. When they don't, you find somebody who will.

[tiger7_88]

2 hours ago, USDepartmentOfSavagery said:

Ah yes, Ronald looking to ride the coat tails of superior talent for 8-9 years while simultaneously mismanaging injuries to franchise players and consistently underachieving while blaming the players (and their subsequent more serious injuries became of your ineptitude). 

[NanuqoftheNorth]

Ron will get hired by another organization that believes he wasn't the source of the Panthers issues when it comes to winning.

That organization won't be wrong.

[AceBoogie]

2 hours ago, Louie said:

He might enjoy playing the Panthers twice a year!

So would we. 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Ron will get hired by another organization that believes he wasn't the source of the Panthers issues when it comes to winning.

That organization won't be wrong.

It's conceivable that Rivera goes somewhere with good management and starts winning. There'll probably be people crying that we made a mistake if that occurs.

But let's be real. With a Rivera / Hurney braintrust running the show, that was never gonna happen here.

[Smithers]

Ron wouldn’t be able to handle the NY media.  He’s had it made in Charlotte.  Those reporters up there will consistently ask the questions Ron doesn’t want to have to answer

[NanuqoftheNorth]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

It's conceivable that Rivera goes somewhere with good management and starts winning. There'll probably be people crying that we made a mistake if that occurs.

But let's be real. With a Rivera / Hurney braintrust running the show, that was never gonna happen here.

Agreed.

Ron, if paired with a decent GM, will win more than he loses, just like John Fox.

The main source of the Panthers problems is painfully obvious, Marty Hurney.

[Green-Ghost]

2 hours ago, DubE_4MR said:

Cowboys, Falcons, Browns (good young players that could use a grown man like Ron)

 

2 hours ago, DubE_4MR said:

What about Washington?

 

 

[rhyslloyd]

Now, that is funny.  Winners don't hire losers, Ronnie baby.

[MountaineerChemist10]

1) Browns

2) Jaguars

3) Falcons

4) Giants

[DubE_4MR]

8 minutes ago, Green-Ghost said:

 

 

The Redskins front office situation is a mess right now. Plus you still have a young, developing QB. That doesn't sound like the situation he was looking for.

[LinvilleGorge]

Fair enough. Meanwhile, the Panthers want a coach who is a winner.