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Tony Pauline: Jets are one of about five teams that have been sniffing around and doing a lot of preliminary work on James Bradberry.

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15 minutes ago, PantherPhann89 said:

I believe that letting Bradberry walk will yield a compensatory pick for next year, providing we don't sign a comparable FA replacement. But trading him now would give us whatever pick we get for him to use this year. Granted teams know that we may release him, so they may not want to offer much. But, in our favor, they'd avoid a bidding war in FA, for a CB with a currently very good ranking. 

He’s a FA. We can’t trade him unless we franchise him and that can be risky. No one meets our demands and at a certain date he can’t sign a long term deal so unless a team is hard up (like Seattle with Clowney), he’s a one year rental. Team’s won’t give much. Houston got a 3rd (lower because Seattle is good) and a couple cast offs. Best option may be to let him go and get a comp 3rd anyway with no risk.

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2 hours ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

Bradberry has been pretty consistent and was a day 1 starter the last 4 years. Norman had 1 all pro year with us (and has had only 1 such season in the NFL) and that was it. 

If you were to ask yourself 4 years of solid CB play/full 16 game starter that has the ability to play against opposing teams #1 vs 1 year of elite CB play which would you choose? I'd honestly have to go with Bradberry

Josh Norman was elite in 2014, nobody knew who he was then so it didn’t get the buzz. If I have to explain that he was elite in 2014 I rest my case on people not knowing what their talking about. 
 

don’t even know relevant team history, I mean come on!

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13 hours ago, JARROD said:

Could you pay him and trade him?

Sorta, kinda, which is the way I would go.

Slap the franchise tag on him. He said he would sign it, so let him sign it. 

If the Panthers emerge from the draft with a CB either Day 1 or Day 2, then let those five teams that are interested make an offer, 3rd round or better. If they don't get a good offer, let him play out the year, then let him go.

It's what they should have done with Norman.

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3 hours ago, stbugs said:

He’s a FA. We can’t trade him unless we franchise him and that can be risky. No one meets our demands and at a certain date he can’t sign a long term deal so unless a team is hard up (like Seattle with Clowney), he’s a one year rental. Team’s won’t give much. Houston got a 3rd (lower because Seattle is good) and a couple cast offs. Best option may be to let him go and get a comp 3rd anyway with no risk.

Yes yes, you are right my friend. 

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3 hours ago, Doc Holiday said:

Josh Norman was elite in 2014, nobody knew who he was then so it didn’t get the buzz. If I have to explain that he was elite in 2014 I rest my case on people not knowing what their talking about. 
 

don’t even know relevant team history, I mean come on!

Uh you are aware Norman wasn't even a starter until half way through the 2014 season correct? And he played well but he was not top 10 top 15 or even considered a top 25 CB at that point. I'd hardly call that elite. He was an overrated cover 3 zone corner. Which is part of the reason why his franchise tag was rescinded. The truly elite corners can play both man and zone which is something Norman CANNOT do.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2507536-br-nfl-1000-ranking-the-top-101-cornerbacks-from-2014.amp.html

I'd relax a bit trying to call me out on my football acumen which has nothing to do with this conversation. I'll give you 1.5 seasons of elite cb play from Norman in his entire 8 year career. I'm still taking Bradberry.

There's a reason Corners like Revis and Gilmore can go to different teams and still be successful. They dont have to play in a specific scheme to be effective. Corners like Sherman and Norman struggle outside of the schemes that dont play to their strengths (zone)

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Norman ran a SLOW 40 at the combine--a 4.68 or something.  He is a zone CB that was never elite. Now he is 32.  We really need to stop looking back to 2015 as if these players will somehow rediscover that magic.  2015 was in many ways a lucky year.  That season, the turnover margin was +20.  We played with the lead a lot, forcing teams to pass on us vs. a stout rush.  The conditions were perfect for Norman.  He had a good year to cap the end of 2014.  He was to 2015 what Larry Brown was to 1995.

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12 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Looking back now, it looks like Dave Gettleman did make the right move in removing the franchise tag on Josh. 

How he did it was the real problem. Go to the draft see what you get (Bradbury) and ask him if he would sign the tag and play/trade or be released. I was done with Josh by then myself but how he participated in that embaresement of a process was poorly handled.

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Big picture: 2021 3rd Round Comp pick > 27 year old Bradberry on a nearly $14M/yr contract, IMO. 
 

If we were contending for a deep playoff run, I’d re-sign him. We are far from that ball park, so why waste the cap space on a CB about to get paid elite CB money....and he is not an elite CB.

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